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Did Robinson ever manage to "earn the right to play football"? I'm glad Wimmer looks to be in the "lets play our game straight from the kick off" camp and lets the opposition deal with that instead.

Likewise added to the fact I detest St Mirren with a passion I am looking forward to it. Going to Fir park under SK was a chore more than anything.

Tickets for Aberdeen ten quid.

So endeth the lesson , from the book of Saint Stuart of Kettlewell .

What!!! Such lunacy, changes during a game?? Everyone knows you take at least 6 months to change midfield formation unless of course injuries accelerate that, thus enabling you to randomly place players in various positions which they are unfamiliar with. Someone needs to have a word with MW before this gets out of hand and let him know, that is not the Motherwell way. If it’s not nipped in the bud, next thing you know they’ll be clean sheets, entertaining football, goals from open play and cheering crowds. FFS get it sorted!!

Halliday said on one of his many podcast appearances that part of Wimmer's approach is to adapt formations for different opponents. And, in fact, against Rangers, he changed our midfield formation after 15 minutes of watching the game.

For longevity I'm hopeful he can 1) adapt to different formations when teams figure us out - this was a problem for AK, GA & SR 2) keep the enthusiasm for sustained period 3) recruit well.

To be fair, though, it was SK that quickly figured out how a formation to get the best from him. He'd scored 4 in the 15 games before SK took over and scored 16 in the fourteen games after he took over.

Let's not forget Kettlewell had a Striker that at the time that could have shot at the moon and it would have went in Wimmer hasn't had the luxury of a player like that to bail him out. The new management team is building a good foundation let's hope it's just keeps getting better and better the more they get to work with the players. I am loving the pressing they looked like a pack of wolves on the hunt for blood on Saturday and it was fantastic to watch after the utter horrible stuff we have had to endure. Onwards and upwards!

Yes this does feel so different this time you just have to see the players reaction. After two weeks of training that’s happening now we shall see the players looking sharper and fitter. COYW

With no game this week, The Rancid are just turning out daily stories about Miller going to Celtic For me, that would just show a lack of ambition when there are so many great opportunities out there. And even though I know it's all clickbait to sucker in the OF fans, it's still annoying that they think that's the best he can do. Remember Caldwell said that the performance data shows Miller is the 8th best youngster in the world? Do you think the 7th or 9th best are phoning Celtic for a transfer?

Good post Clackscat. I detest both sides of the arsecheeks and have been abused by fans of both of them equally over the years. Neither set is worse or better than the other. That said, I have good friends who support both of them and are reasonable in their views. However much I detest them, that emotion doesn't come anywhere near matching my love for the Well.

Not only that, but professional managers, coaches and players start figuring out ways to play against new systems. On the plus side, a high press is difficult for any team to counteract if done well. It typically takes lots of short passes from the back when you have a tight marker. But teams will find a way to make it more difficult for us and, as always, that is when the coaching staff start to earn their money.

Not an ex player , but 10 home wins in a row at Bradford for Graham Alexander, a club record 2 points off the top of the league , well done 👍

I was brought up in the 60s and schooled in a Rangers environment and I loved football. My first strip was a Rangers one, my first game attended was a Rangers one. I was oblivious to the other stuff around that (at first) but as I grew older and went to more games that changed, the culmination in that was a game v Hibs, sitting with my dad in the posh seats, (his bosses season tkts) while the smartly dressed guy in front with wife by his side stood up and called Pat Quinn every sweary anti catholic insult you could think of and nothing was said. I was 12 and can remember it as if it was yesterday, I never went back and drifted away from senior football until after a change of school in EK I met lads who were Well fans and found my spiritual home, 50 years later, still lifelong friends. I have a deep rooted dislike of Rangers and Celtic and everything both of them stand for. With the odd exception you cannot have a reasonable football discussion with fans of either, who view everything through their tinted glasses and cannot comprehend any other view. Deep as that feeling is I do not dislike either of them more than I love my club which stands for everything I believe in, and I believe all of us who take the harder road of supporting a 'smaller' club do so from that perspective. I honestly do not believe any Well fan hates either of the arse cheeks (detestable as they are) more than support our club; that is our overriding purpose.

After seeing how we set up & executed the last two games, im actually excited for going to Fir Park. I cant say iv had that feeling much over the last few seasons - despite being an ST holder & going along each week, it was more out of habit/duty. Long may the excitement continue

Was first three for Kettlewell was it not ? The players were bought into what he was doing for the remainder of the season he took over. Didn't go wrong till a bit after that. You could probably argue that they bought in for the first round of games this season. Wimmer's influence on the team so far has been remarkable and he gets a standing ovation from me for it ! But i'm always nervous about getting too excited just because I know that the vast majority of managers of most teams meet an acrimonious end at some point 🙂 Lets just hope the Wimmer revolution lasts a bit longer.

All I will say is that Kettlewell won first 2 games in charge and we thought he was great. However somehow it feels different this time, seems a great guy that players are buying into and want to play for, ahmet also

Apologies in advance, long winded post 🙂 I started going to Motherwell with my da' (because my old man was a 'Well fan when he was younger) in about 1972/3 and got my first season ticket (old main stand, 5 rows back, 5 seats in) in '75 for the start of the new 10 team premier league. A few games into the season, we played Rangers and the row in front of me was full of their fans. This was my first experience of them (aged about 12). A sat with my old man and we were sat between a couple of folk that some on here may know. Don St John, a disabled club singer and Andy Edgar (later to become Hamilton Accies photographer). Early in the game, Don called John Grieg a 'clown' and was harassed, threatened, had a punch swung at him and was told for the whole game that he was 'getting it' down the back stairs. Over the years, I've witnessed and ended up sadly getting involved in numerous and regular altercations with their fans in the main stand. Call it luck, call it whatever, but I've never actually had to deal with that kind of shit from Celtic fans. Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not saying they don't have cunty fans as well, i've just never had to deal with any. As a result of these experiences at a young age, it gave me a really deep seated hatred of them (chuck in the 95/96 cup semi for good measure). Celtic to me are just another team that I love seeing us beat, along with any other team we play but I have to admit I get that extra wee spring in my step when we pump the currant buns. None of this has anything to do with religion or background. If I followed a team cause of where I went to school i'd be a h*n and if I followed my pals from my childhood who i played football with up the park, i'd probably, on balance, be a tim. I'm neither. I'm a Motherwell fan and have inflicted the same on my kids 🙂 I certainly don't hate Rangers more than I love Motherwell and I certainly don't have any 'sympathies' for the other lot.

Sadly we will never get away from the whole Celtic and Rangers thing , and the fact some of their fans label everyone in Scotland as us and them I must admit I am not biased , I don't care who beats either of them . Providing of course it is not affecting our result , or league position, was speaking to an Aberdeen fan in work recently who has exactly the same thinking Some enjoy friendly banter , others overstep the mark Lost count of the time I have been called the H*n word who can't afford the busfare Flipside of the coin I remember speaking to a Rangers fan a few years back , he said I think we should call you Timmy from now on , when I asked why Timmy ? The best response he could come up with was well anyone who doesn't support Rangers must be a Catholic , that was an eye opener moment at the way people are , he wasn't even kidding either

If he can manage to get us 3 points at Killie after getting 3 points at Ibrox, he is definitely a miracle worker.

I believe the technical term for kicking lumps out of opponents is "They're not that kind of player".

A big concern for us should be the potential for Robbo to set St Mirren up to kick lumps out of us and cause some bad injuries. We need to be smart going into this game.

That’s a very good post with alot of good points. And you may well be right about politics playing a part in some people’s thinking with regards to foootball. As much as I hate it and don’t get it, that happens in this country and some people just cannot separate the two. What I would say to counter your argument though is that I think there are also some in our support who perceive any criticism of Celtic or someone stating a dislike of them more than Rangers as being pro-Rangers/pro-Union/pro-Orange order and (perhaps most ludicrous of all) anti catholic. I can’t speak for everyone but my dislike of Celtic is based on football, my own experiences of them and the way their supporters act and the attitudes they display. It’s not driven by politics or religion. Finally, while I have to admit that you are very much one of the posters on here whom I base my “hate Rangers more than they like Motherwell” at due to your previous posts about how you were never a fan of Stuart McCall due to your dislike of all things Rangers despite him doing well with us and how you wouldn’t want Barry Ferguson at FP watching a game never mind being involved in managing us, I have never believed that this was down to you being pro-Celtic. I just think some of your posts suggest you were a ‘Rangers hater’ first and foremost and a Motherwell supporter second.

Certainly, if it were possible, because if he were to go to Celtic I think he would be a bench warmer for a while and I don't think David Turnbull's experience at CP was beneficial for his development.