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When clubs are content to employ negative donkeys such as Kettlewell, at the same time as incompetent officials being allowed to ruin the game, the clubs and the SFA will have nobody to blame but themselves once ticket sales naturally drop off over time. The tipping point has been reached in terms of value for money.

This game is exactly why the pint of Bailey’s was invented.

When Collum ran out at Fir Park the reaction of most was Oh no it will all be about him and it usually was. Now he is the man in charge. What do you expect?

We require a strong and mobile centre forward and a commanding central midfielder in the January window. And we could also do with shedding some of the deadweight, once/if some of our more capable injured players return during that window.

Thankfully I have to take my daughter to the airport in Edinburgh so this will be over before I know the score! Probably the best result possible for me.

Didnt think anyone had a brilkiant game tonight. Not for 90 minutes anyway. Maswanhise lit it up at the end but was only on a short time. Seddon was playing very well until he got injured and was our best player up to that point. He was very cross when he had to go off as if he felt he had been targetted by the Killie players. Had a right go at a couple of them. I went for Miller as I felt he sttod up to the physical test offered to him. He is starting to turn from a boy into a man.

When paying fans rock up on cold winters night they need more than a pie and bovril to keep them warm. 4 shots all game/one on target is far from that. We had a such a good opportunity to build on the attacking display from last weekend. A draw is a decent result , just a shame not to offer much in the way of entertainment. Majority of the SPL clubs need a kick in the backside to up their approach to entertaining the fans.

I have to say I have no complaints re VAR feom last night. 2 big decisions, the red card and the penalty claim, and imho they get them both right. They send the ref to the monitor to reverse the red card (not their fault he doesnt) and I dont think there is much Gordon can do with the handball as its blasted right at him (probably woulda been given last season). Last nights problem was an officious referee out of his depth.

Not too bothered about the quality of the performance as games against McInnes teams usually end up in a shitfest. He is a very tactically astute manager and once again he set his team up to counter our line up and it worked. The fact that we managed to sneak a goal and looked reasonably solid defending it until half time was pleasing. But we were always going to run out of legs and the subs needed to be the correct ones. Ultimately SK got it wrong again by waiting too long and trying to hold what we had. The first 2 subs should have been Sparrow and Maswanhise for Halliday and Paton. Had we done that and pushed Killie back, their goal maybe doesnt happen. The fact that we then get the red card and look better with 10 men is proof in point. The last 10/15 minutes were actually quite exciting. As for the referee? Probably one of the worst in the league. His handling of the game was terrible. Letting Killie away with some pretty roughouse tactics and then blowing for silly inocuous fouls elsewhere. To give a red card to Casey when he lets his frustration boil over just encapsulated how poorly he was reading the game. To get the chance to overturn such a poor decision and then stick with it in an effort to show you are a strong referee shows a lot about his character. Overall a point was about right, and feels ok given the circumstances surrounding the red card, but it shoulda been 3. The manager needs to be braver with his selections and substitutions in key moments.

At least the ref's horror show had deflected away from our terrible performance. Lennon has been poor for weeks now and I assume its because he has been given the captains armband. If you really think about it, he is a kid and should not have that pressure thrust on him. He is a top talent and the quicker he gets out of this league the better!!!!!

Craig thomson = cheat

Just to add to the refereeing discussion. Killie should have picked up 3 yellow cards in the first 15 minutes. They set out their stall early on and tested a weak referee. The first was a deliberate very late tackle on Lennon Miller. No card. Harry Paton committed an identical offence late on and was rightly booked for it. Another was a deliberate elbow to Lennon Miller's head; again no action taken. Total inconsistency. As an aside, teams are now staring to target Lennon Miller. He'll need to learn to deal with this kind of treatment as he'll face much worse if he moves south to a big team. I think the SFA will indeed take the referee's performance in to account when making allocations for future games. Just to make a point they will give us him again very soon. Criticism of referees won't be tolerated.

Cheers my man for actually entering the spirit of the conversation and I will DM you the guys name see if you like him or not! Hopefully I can insure that Cameron McD is the last person on earth that will know.

Rest easy as he was injured against Hearts. We desperately need a big target man up front and a big nasty defensive midfielder. A few candidates to be shipped out to make way for them.

We are not the ugly sisters so the refereeing body will say feck all, as will the SFA, media, etc and the same incompetent officials will still be turning out to referee games next week with no accountability. If VAR ask the ref to review, they obviously think he's got it wrong so why not just tell him that, it's not a red card and get on with it, as if he ignores the VAR advice what's the point of them being there., Scottish football is fecked if that's how we are proceeding.

He shouldn’t be allowed to ref another premier game. He has no clue. If anyone in the officiating side of things sticks up for him then they should be booted out too. The officiating body needs to stand up and pronounce this as a ridiculous decision and take action against the ref. the ref must be the only person on the planet who considers that to be a red card offensE but the fact that VAR called him to review it and he still determined it was a red card is so fkn unbelievable, I just don’t know how to put it not words!!! I’d be interested to see what the pundits/reporters Are saying about this call. Of Course I’m even more interested to hear what the refereeing body has to say 😡

Yes it sure is mate

The gaffer said

Im hoping Liam Donnelly not featuring tonight isnt a sign! On the other hand Mohammed Sylla would do just fine!

VAR is not the problem. Its down to the officials administering it.

I won't comment on the refereeing as thats been well covered elsewhere. A share of the points was about right. We took an early lead and as the game wore on SK decided to sit in and hold our lead. Big mistake as we simply don't have the midfielders or defenders to play like that. Everyone could see the Killie goal coming long before it did. I couldn't fault our starting line up but as half time approached it became obvious that Tony Watt and Stama weren't working up front. Playing a long ball game against a big physical team was never going to end well. Things deteriorated even further when Paton left the fray (understandably given his lack of fitness). It was a big mistake to bring on the anonymous Davor and not bring on Manwhanise earlier. That simply signalled our intention to pack our penalty box in a throw back to Graham Alexander's reign. I thought both wing/full backs, Kaleta and Wilson, were hung out to dry and suffered a roasting. One effort on target and 2 corners all night tell their own story. 2 points needlessly dropped. If we absolutely must play this type of game then lets get in the appropriate bodies to do it effectively. As they say in boxing "A good big 'un will always beat a good little 'un". Stephen Robinson will happily provide SK with advice.

It seem every time the refs and managers get together to discuss issues, standards get worse. With technology there is no excuse to not get the basics right. The refs get decent money for what is part time work. Humans make mistakes, but some of the latest make you question their integrity. Over the years there have been some awful corrupt refs. With var it was hoped this would help. It has not and made things worse or at least highlight how bad the officials are.

The baw going over the east stand roof is the least of Willie Collums problems 😂

Let's not kid anyone, that was brutal and a draw probably right. But......one of worst performances by ref I have ever seen, a possible 2 pens for killie but the Red card beggars belief, if no VAR you can say its a mistake but fact he is asked to go and look at it AND still thinks that's a red card is embarrassing. Killie brutal and fact polworth and Armstrong involved in key moments sums it up. I never agree with booing forner players but with polworth I have no issues....horrible character who showed more pace celebrating than he did in 2 years with us. But....we got a point with 10 men , could have been worse...COYW