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Maybe he's slightly over-hyped (or well marketed) by the club? He made a dreadful decision going to Parkhead, a club that really doesn't fancy playing many young Scots when it matters Hopefully the club know what they are doing...its a very brave game to be playing with under 18months to go on his contract

Also it depends who wants to pay the most. Celtic offered more than Norwich or any other club. the sale ultimately benefited Motherwell more than it did Turnbull.

What happens if we change up the playing style and still lose?

He got booed once (Kettlewell) I've never booed a player or a manager and I've seen a lot of honking football over the last almost four decades So we get rid of a manager if the crowd boos them? Once? Surely not

Obviously Mair in goals. Vale suspended? I’d have Wilson and Halliday on the bench. Back 3 of Casey and Balmer plus either O’Donnell or Blaney but per Wee Yin’s observation let’s go with O’Donnell Balmer Casey midfield Andrews Sparrow Nicholson Slattery Maswanhise front two Watt Moses We can bring Kaletta on for Nicholson as he tires. Likewise Wilson for TJ

I think thats a fair point. Alexander failed to learn a single thing from the Sligo home game and played exactly the same way in the away leg and got the same result. If SK does the same, he should expect the wrath of the fabs to come down on him. It would be an absolutely ludicrous thing to do.

In the great scheme of things, the referee's poor performance on Saturday wasn't a huge issue. We had other more pressing issues with which to contend. However, John Beaton was very inconsistent. Yes, I recall that very incident which had many fans on their feet in protest. I can't, in all honesty, blame SK for complaining about those decisions. I'm one of those sad fans who dislike stealing yards at free kicks and throw ins and so take an interest in such decisions. Beaton constantly pulled up our players for stealing yardage at throw ins but blatantly failed to do so with St Johnstone who were equally as guilty.

I was meaning the hostlie crowd its really close to turning that which was the main reason Alexander left cause pretty sure the board at the time would have let him plod along fine and dandy. Loosing back to back games against a very poor St Johnstone really wont cut it with alot of the fan base.

Obviously up to each individual and it’s always nice to win medals and trophies but winning honours with Celtic in Scotland is a bit empty. They could throw one of us in from off here and we’d win medals.

Apparently Udinese have had two offers knocked back and are going to make an improved one for Miller

Was nasty knock he took a few games ago. Think he got flung to the ground and got injured as a result

Alexander wasn't sacked though. I don't think Kettlewell will be.

What’s up with Gordon? Shoulder? Concussion?

Turnbull had a tremendous fisty half-season at Celtic. Then injuries and Ange Postecoglu's high tempo pressing game didn't really suit him.

It's tough. John McGinn has been one of the more successful Scottish exports, but his trophy wins are with St Mirren and Hibs. I suspect he's enjoying himself at Villa more than he would have enjoyed himself at Celtic, but only he can say for sure if that's true.

Possibly Paton?

Do we have any players back from injury for this game?

Maybe not right away if he went to Norwich but possibly after a year or two and with a bigger better club than Celtic but we’ll never know now.

Ultimately, it's down to what motivates individual players - and even that might change at different stages of a career. If I had the talent, I'd be very much in the Lewis Ferguson camp, getting as much as I could from living and playing in Italy. I can see, however, how a diehard Celtic fan would be attracted to playing for them early in their career and winning leagues or trophies with their boyhood heroes. It's been great to see Scottish players thrive abroad in recent times. For a long time, many were following the "big move south - quiet move back north" career development plan.

We just don't have any identity about us really but it puzzles me greatly why Kettlewell is convinced the way we are playing is the way forward it's not even about how horrible it is cause I for one wouldn't give a hoot how ugly it was if it was competing and picking up wins but it isn't. We really are not doing anything in games until the 80th minute but by then we tend to be a goal or two down this is happening week after week after week. I am expecting more of the same on Saturday cause we know he won't budge on formation and play to the players strengths we have available. It's a big game on Saturday pumped out the cup and if we lose to bottom club again the new boards balls are going to be tested cause Sligo part 2 is on the cards.

Lewis Ferguson might win nothing in his career but he's playing every week in Serie A against some of the best players in the world and is team captain.

We're a professional football club,the least we should expect is players being comfortable enough to pass the ball too each other,it's a basic skill,budget shouldn't come into it.when it comes to playing through the midfield having your best player out injured is far from ideal but we have slattery who is decent on the ball and andrews looks the same when he was actually giving the ball in the second half at easter road,there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't be passing the ball and players moving to give there team mate an option,we do the complete opposite and it can only be down to that's how the manager wants us to play.im all for having some big units in the team at centre half and a target man up front but the constant long ball and playing right Into the oppositions hands is nothing to do with budget.

So glad I stayed to the end.

Not if that's what it takes. I've seen plenty of Motherwell teams that were difficult to play against, and none of them were full of nasty players or big physical units.

That was me. As a former Referee(many many moons ago) shouts from the touchline comes with the territory and you generally try to ignore it but the point I was making was that since his public outburst about Casey's ordering off he seems to have come more to the attention of the officials. How many cards has he had since then 2/3?. Did anyone notice that after his yellow card on Saturday for 15mins afterwards every 50/50 seemed to go to St Johnstone? A coincidence perhaps but that was what I used to do if the voices from the sidelines started to piss me off and believe me it always worked. They would either quieten down or work themselves up to a frenzy and a red card, either way it had the desired effect. Kettlewell is very vocal but no more vocal than any other manager in the League with maybe a couple of exceptions and I've never heard him swear or be abusive but he certainly likes to challenge decisions that he thinks were wrong which should be his right of course.