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That's not what happened though it is? And I think you know this and not for the first time. I let all of them slide despite your best efforts to get a rise because it is pure energy vampire stuff. The constant twisting of what actually happened, needing to be at the centre of everything often devoid of any salient points, citing you don't have issues with anyone while having a long rap sheet of those perceived to have wronged you, hijacking of threads or taking them off on a merry tangent and not being robust enough to take a joke or be corrected without crying foul. All combined, they landed you in SteelmenOnline jail until recently. I'm glad you cite P&B, you rocked up in the St Mirren matchday thread a few weeks back and ... surprise surprise ... binfire. To the extent the St Mirren fans with no preconceptions or knowledge told you to take a break with the standard eyeroll. You demand anonymity yet lay out your life story in along with your name in unsolicited DM's. You cite being stalked, yet your online and real world actions fits most traits of that behaviour. You claim to be chill and water off a ducks back yet you prickle at everything. However, the most vexatious action is the twisting of the truth to fuel your grudges. Time for a long hard look in the mirror. You must also not have been paying much attention last summer, but I keep receipts. The DM's you cite were forwarded to Yabba and another moderator in their entirety because I knew I'd need to keep my powder dry because you simply can't help yourself. So get your wee rant typed up littered with the well worn victim stuff and sympathy fishing. Don't DM me, don't slander me on Facebook and don't continue to bring a sword to a gunfight. To everyone else, apologies for this, this is a football forum after all for conjecture, debate and most importantly humour. Just straw/camels back ...

I might miss this game as it’s ANZAC day Friday long day starting at dawn for Dawn Service so up at 0400 muster with me mates after service have a gunfire breakfast an hour later getting ready for the parade then back to the club for two-up and the usual routine I have been known to be MIA for a couple of days…. Anyway COYW Lest we forget

Me ,I'll be renewing

Hi Everyone David Blacklaw here. Just over a year ago I seen some posts on Social Media about the Well Society looking for volunteers to assist with some up and coming Workstreams that they had identified as key area’s and these aligned with my priorities. I duly got involved and you may have seen me at the Well Society Days with Balloons and Stickers sharing the Well Society message, or welcoming all the members to our recent fantastically successful comedy night in the Davie Cooper Suite. On our recent trip to Aberdeen saw me take ownership in the form of leading one of the Buses for Supporters from Fir Park. I have also been working very closely with Sally on the Membership workstream where we are taking the time to call Well Society Members to reconnect with our members, find out what is important to them and encourage feedback on what we can improve on. Also working on the Well Society Junior Steel engagement push. I actually got the chance to call Ex Motherwell legend Keith Lasley whose son was a member of the Junior Steel group. I think he was more shocked than me 😂😂. For the future of The Well Society, I see a vibrant and growing community that continues to expand its reach and impact. We will enhance and diversify our programs and services to better support the well-being of our members and the wider community, ensuring that we remain at the forefront of promoting health, happiness, and resilience. I see The Well Society creating a sustainable, long-term future of our Club through strategic initiatives and partnerships. By focusing on measurable outcomes and continuous improvement, we will ensure that our efforts lead to lasting positive change for our members, the club and the communities we serve." Thank you for your time and I would appreciate if you can vote for me in the upcoming Well Society Board elections. Please also pass onto family and friends that are also Well Society Members. 🙏🙏 Please reach out with any questions. Mon the Well!!!

Sorry but one good game dosent deserve a contract cause soon as it was signed on the dotted line Watt would be back to below par run outs lets not kid ourselves on here. Its time to move on.

What concerns me isn't about any individual who's recruiting , more the general direction we've gotten into. Over the last decade we've transitioned from bringing in 7-8 new players and regularly brining in 16-20. There's a lot less of the younger crew coming through on a regular basis and we're going from full overhaul one season to a next. We've always had budget constraints , for me we're being really wasteful and the approach needs to change.

Lennon Miller wins the PFA Young Player of the Year. Congrats.

There's been a couple of times in the last 5 or 6 years when were were in deep shit. The post police charge collapse under Robinson and the whole Hammell era which only came into being because another manager was forced out the club. Motherwell fans need to get a grip. In the natural order we are a Bottom 6 club every season and the only time we aren't are when we over achieve and others underachieve. 'That prat' had this team Top 6 all season, achieved a semi final, saved us from relegation once and had us comfortable last season. Sure it's a little bit nervy going into the last stage of the season but the only non city team that's better than us this term is St Mirren and then only by a small margin. Our fans need to get some perspective and stop the doom/crisis/it's never been worse/gut the club cycle.

You're right. It's not just about the players on loan. It's about the injuries as well and personally. I can't be bothered with the constant misery around Motherwell fc. Yes we are rubbish. Yes we might go down but does that need to be highlighted on every other post on here. I'm personally sick of it. I get it. Some fans think we are crap. They aren't good enough. But hopefully we will get tenth at least to stay up The negativity on here in some quarters is staggering. You get some people predicting we are going to lose every week no matter who we play I also think it's astonishing that some people think that managers can offload players who are still under contract. Edited to say I've seen that elsewhere not just on this forum. On Facebook folk were calling for everyone apart from Ox to go (eyeroll). I saw a post on here yesterday saying Balcombe has to go - stop press - he's on loan Rant over.

Also applies to Jake Hastie's career choices.

Exactly!blows my mind reading I would give him another year or two one good game in about 19 games and it merits a contract. No value in signing him whatsoever and not telling me we can't get our hands on a younger version that has the same attributes nah we have enough retained now the rest can leave let's just build around what we have and push on.

Not because of yesterday but I’d sign Watt (reasonable wages of course) he’s not injury prone, experienced, can actually control a ball and pass, decent level, just needs kept in line for fitness and attitude. As good as or better than a lot of the signings we’ve made the past couple of years.

A fiver to turn friends into enemies? Bargain!! 😁

Some amount of pant wetting going on around here of late. Looking forward to when we scud this lot, and end up cruising to a fairly standard 7th or 8th place finish. You'd think we were the side five points adrift at the bottom going by the patter on this forum.

I'm jealous of the people who rank this squad as "the worst they have ever seen". They've had it easy!

I have no idea why people are talking as if we're the worst team in the league. Where will the four points come from? Who would be all that surprised if we beat St Johnstone at home, drew with Killie at home (securing the four points needed) and then went on to draw away with a poor Hearts team who really have nothing left to play for, and grab another point or three against either County or Dundee away? We can get four points from that lot without much bother. I fully expect us to finish 8th or 9th.

Team that finished yesterday had 5 loanees, add other loanees that didn't feature and also out of contract players and it will be a totally different squad next season. Also McGinn, Gordon, Seddon and Stama missing doesn't help. As I said to my mates yesterday, it's like keeping a car ticking along till it's MOT is due. Just want to survive this season then we rebuild but Wimmer needs to be given a chance and his first transfer window hopefully gives us an idea of how we will look

Best bit of content since the Peter Hartley on the wee piano video!

For the glass half empty brigade......get that feckin glass full tonight!!. Ahhhh happy days

It's amazing how the mood of a game can create that kind of chaos. And if Forbes hadn't missed the pen, we would never have had the pleasure of that finish.

I predict MJC will predict 2 0 Dundee and predict we wont win another game this season and predict that we end up in the play off spot.

Give them Kettlewells phone number .

Kcuf em? 🤣🤣

I don't understand how he can be perceived as the best option. He conceded a ridiculous amount of goals for St Mirren , we've had the same issue. I get why he was drafted in when Ox got injured and the loanee got injured but why Ox isn't been given the gloves back is beyond me.

“ two up “ sounds better you can have the breakfast grizzly 🫣🤣🤣

If we want to progress and finish higher than the teams above us in the league, I think we need to stop signing players they have let go. They are letting them go for a reason. Tony Watt should be a great example of that. Similarly with Halliday albeit he has done a job this season. There will always be exceptions to the rule, but generally speaking we should be looking at getting younger more dynamic players with a bit of pace (ability) with the prospect of developing them. We have enough old experienced legs in our squad as it is. Dont think we need any more.

I just don’t understand the Halliday love? Each to their own and all that but I think in general apart from maybe a couple of games he’s been poor. his first thought when he gets a ball is to win a foul, he spends 60mins of each game on his ar5e. He rarely creates anything, rarely pushes forward and struggles to track back. as mentioned each to their own but he’s not for me and I’d be letting him go.

For me the McLean era highlights what we can do over a sustained period of time. Not easy but this is something we should be looking to replicate and accept we're a long term project. McLean built a team long term like you mention the likes of Maxwell, Arnott, Dolan, Griffin, Kirk and many others improved over the years, particularly when we brought in some quality (Russell, Cooper etc) I'd be delighted for the club to have a long term progressive plan, that see's us gradually improve each year. Short term we need more cohesion and a few players with a bit more fight about them. Feels a long time since we had the likes of Lasley, Hammell, Craggs of the world who were good enough for us and cared about the club. My simple view is we need less journeyman and more Wilsons of this world fighting for us and progressing each year, don't need to all be world beaters. PS if someone could give us a Cooper or a Russell well that's fine too :).

Because we’re persisting with a system that requires proper wingbacks to function effectively, which we do not have. The alternative is, therefore, a flat back 4 with 2 defensive midfielders sitting in front to protect them, and 3 midfielders in front of them to provide some attacking penetration and width to feed the 1 up top. A simple 4-2-3-1 as proposed by @joewarkfanclub above.

Defeatist bollocks.

I agree. We will not be getting relegated this season. The psychology is interesting. There is a rather natural assumption that we are the poorest of the 6 simply because of our natural angst of a worst case scenario. Hearts are probably the best of the six and they were rotten yesterday. They could not raise themselves to a performance despite all that was at stake. After Hearts, we are in the best place. The table does not lie. Draws work nicely for us. The teams below need wins. Again our natural irrational brains would tell us that St Johnstone will never make up 5 points on Dundee yet we have the fear about Dundee making up 5 points on us. We are rotten. Of that there is no doubt. The teams around us are as bad if not worse. If they were not, they would be further up the league table. I can't help but think of the Butland goal/ no goal against Rangers. Had that been given as it should we would be as good as home and dry right now. Yes there will be a few anguish moments but we will be safe this year.

I don't think it was that bad. It was an improvement on the past few games, plenty fight and spirit in the team. Defensively looked much better too, with Balcombe, O'Donnell and Casey all having good games.

Don't tell any Celtic fans that you are watching the rangers game as they will accuse you of being a h*n without the bus fare, all the while they are watching every minute intently.

A manager with football coaching ability can always learn the Scottish game. A Scottish manager with limited football coaching ability is never getting any better.....

Might just be me but these kind of posts from the clubs social media team just annoy me. Especially when we are on a poor run. Look good all you want in training, its what happens game day that counts and of late, it's been pish.

FFS wind your neck in! I started the topic by posing what I considered to be a very relevant and legitimate question, i.e. in the event we were to be relegated would the manager stay. I did not question his integrity or his ability. However a few of the usual twats on here jump in and put their own spin on things.

I wouldn’t be so sure. Those sanctimonious pricks base their existence on opinions on chasni (etc) pies.

Is the hall of the dammed still active as this thread needs condemned to it ASAP.

Hilariously I’m sure Gypsys, tramps and thieves was played at half time against Celtic once.

Take Me Out by Franz Ferdinand. Played at halftime of the 2005 CIS Cup Final. Despite the way the game was going, I seem to remember the Well end bouncing along to it. I probably wouldn't remember it as well but the game has additional significance on a personal level for me, so others might not remember it...

I wouldn't shed a tear at any of the current squad leaving

Having seen the replays, I agree it was a 100% red card. I can also see why Dundee's 2nd goal was disallowed. At the very least, Robertson was distracting Ox. However, I suspect that it was for his movement towards Thompson. Had he been stationed out on a wing I would share Dundee's resentment. I understand Tony Docherty's ire at the officiating but he failed to mention it in relation to Dundee's win over us earlier in the season. What goes around comes around.

Fantastic result and 100% satisfaction to win in that manner.

Motherwell win and Jambos fall to an embarrassing loss would be fine with me.

If he’s the answer, I’m unsure what the question is. Awful

Not having a go but I would quite like to see an MJC league table like the BBC used to do with Mark Lawrenson's predictions. I'm not sure we'd hit double figures.

You know why you shouldn't bother? Because when you have relative success like achieving Top 6, Europe and the later stages of cup competitions our fans throw it back in your face. I'm afraid the kind of football and the kind of success a lot of our fans want only happens once in a blue moon when year and years of work comes together and otherwise is mainly dependent on what mostly makes the world go round - money. Ever wondered why we gut the team every season and things don't seem to get much better? Cos we pay a certain level of wages and there's a level of player that you get for that expenditure. Sure some are better than others but it averages out. It's that simple. So what you call defeatist, I call a realistic outlook. I've been going to Fir Park for 43 years. I've seen maybe 5 or 6 individual teams that actually played good football and a few of them were in a completely different football environment before massive wage increases and player contract rights. The funny thing is players like Ally Maxwell, Dougie Arnott or Jamie Dolan who were developed by the club over 3 or 4 years before they hit their stride would be sent packing by fans these days who have absolutely no patience and demand instant success. And the one trophy we have won in all that time would never have happened if the fans had had their way.

2 week break before next game we all know what happens when this shower have a 2 week break it always ends in tears. One thing Simo has brought to St J is a fight and battle metality if we get a draw i shall be very happy. One player i would 100 percent start is Koutroumbis for a guy thats been dicked about since he came to the club he hasnt really done anything wrong when on the pitch. Ox has been passed fit by medical staff for 2 weeks now and still on the bench that in itself is a worry.

Think time is up for McGinn . 34 years and out much of this season, from memory he a thigh injury last season that kept him out during our poor run. I'd let him go , time to look ahead and get something different. The clubs recruitment has been awful. The last few seasons have come down to this time of the season saying : 1) I hope we don't get drawn in the play offs. 2) next season will be better when we get rid of xyz. We have typically off loaded players only to replace them with something worse. Our squad is majority of journeymen from England - time to change the approach.

I've just upped my contributions again. Wasn't in a position to do so until fairly recently. Good luck to the folk standing for election this time around.