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It could be argued that its most important function has been to protect the club from the actions and desires of its executive board members last year.

Do you think a football club should live outwith its means? If not, it doesnt matter whether the club is fan owned or not. Its the job of the club board to raise and expand existing revenue streams so we have a bigger budget to work with. We have a new chairman, directors and a CEO to deal with that. Its the Society's job to generate sufficient cash reserves to ensure that should the time come we have a big enough overdraft facility to satisfy the governing bodies and deal with any shortfall from operational revenues (apologies for any clumsy terminology, Im not an business person). Any investor is looking for a return on their money, its not free cash. Thats why Im 100% against any investor having majority control of the club as they could literally bleed us dry. Nothing wrong with encouraging investment thats a win win for the club and investor, but thats a whole lot more difficult to find. I would have thought after last summer we might have put all this kind of chat to bed. Its been less than 12 months since we saw off Barmack. Look at the changes that have occured structurally at the club during that time. I think those responsible need a little bit of credit for that and maybe a bit of support in moving onto the next phase?

When will people realise that Clarke and the rest of the Scotland management are useless fuds, constantly filling the squads with bang average at best non Scots just because their Granny or Granpa ate shortbread at the expense of homegrown talent like Miller etc. Its time for the whole management team to be binned and replaced.

Personal view is the 'Scottish International' bit skewed expectations. If' he'd come up through the ranks , never got to Scotland squad I suspect there would be more positivity towards him. This is a local lad who we signed from a fellow SPL club back in 2020 and for 5 years given his best. He's about to be 33 years old and no longer has the engine to get up and down the flanks. Being part of central defence doesn't seem the natural fit as he does switch off. I much prefer him moving forward. Given he's aging and been around the club for 5 years, lives locally etc I can see why he's been extended for another year. A very decent squad player. Robinson, Alexander, Hammel, Kettlewell and now Wimmer have all wanted him around, between them they've seen enough , shame not all fans feel the same way but I generally believe this is more about expectations than what he's delivered.

Good points grizzly,hanley and ralston can't get near there club sides but yet clarke sees them as the answer for a two legged tie,there's no way either would be sharp enough for the demands.not even being biased towards max johnstone but he should have been involved,he had the balls to make the move abroad and further his career and has impressed in doing so but yet we stick with ralston who seems the type that will happily sit on his arse and not play as long as he's doing it at his beloved celtic.

I’m loving that the club shop are offering some old school shirts. The Amber matchwinner shirt currently on offer brings back happy memories. It was the season that sparked the build of the cup winning side and it was the first Steelmen shirt Davie Cooper, Nick Cusack and George Burley ever wore. The newly added Pony shirts are a refreshing addition to the norm of Macron and unbranded naff. But why have they gone for the Battenberg? I mean for f¥ck sake !!! Its predecessor was an absolute bute, was the first whole hoop in years and hosted one of our most successful seasons in living history. 100% missed opportunity!!!

No way the club are offloading a player we paid a 6 figure sum for without trying to re-hab him and recoup some of our outlay. It would be very poor business to do so. The 3 injuries he has had are all different, so to suggest that his body isnt equipped for Scottish football without any further knowledge or medical information is presumptious at best. Given that he has 2 years left on his contract he wont be going anywhere. Better to offload some of the players we already know are not up to the standard/fitness required for Wimmerball and give us options/support up front. The loan boys will be away with Armstrong the only one Id consider trying to get permanently. Also, I think we need to be careful with suggesting that his injuries are "convenient". He may well be finding it difficult to settle, but how do you fake having surgery and a metal plate in your wrist? We need to give the boy a break and all the support we can as a club AND as a support.

Night and day from the old regime and kudos to the WS board for all their efforts in promoting the society and club into the wider community with efforts like last night. The icing on the cake of course would be an announcement of some major inward investment that would give us the transformation that we all want.

DC was a wonderful player (always remember Gullit's assessment of him) but credit to us too for giving him a new lease of life and allowing him to virtually play as he wished. One thing I particularly noticed about David when I saw him every week was that opponents couldn't even get near enough to kick him, he was so aware and so instinctive as a player. I was fortunate enough to work with his gentleman of a brother, who gave me Davie's MoTM engraved wine glass for his performance against Falkirk in the 1991 cup match when I retired. An easy thing to raise a glass to DC when the sad day in March comes around each year. Thirty-eight is dreadfully young to be passing away these days. Thanks for the memories, Mr Cooper.

Odonnell is an excellent professional and at no point in the years he’s played with us have I doubted his effort or doubted his willingness to be here. (We’ve had a lot of players who would be happy to be elsewhere and defenders not as good as him, who have been loved by fans). im ok with him signing, i think he is a decent player and worth keeping.

I agree. I don't see why he would be leaving if we stay up or go down. He surely knew how badly Motherwell were struggling before he took the job. He clearly wanted the challenge

With all due respect that's pish, SK had KVV and Spittal contributing 30 goals between them, MW has Armstrong, Watt or Ebiye so hardly surprising we struggle to score goals and therefore win games As for MW having Multiple chances to secure top 6, that would be 2 maybe 3 games out of the 6 or 7 he's been in charge, aye OK then. Some of the posters on here need a reality check at times, does anyone really think we would be any better off after 32 games if SK had stayed, not a chance we would be at least 6 points worse off.

With all due respect I think this is a load of rubbish. Hammell's team was worse and in a much worse position, relegation very much on the cards, and Kettlewell came in and not only turned it round but went on a great run. Wimmer has had multiple chances to secure a Top 6 position and not done it. Of course he needs time to mould his own team and no one is saying he won't do a job in the long run but that doesn't mean that he's doing as well as he should be. I alluded to it before but I'll just say it out loud now, the two key players in that squad are Lennon Miller and Tawanda Maswanhise, and so far he's show he doesn't recognise that or how to utilise either player effectively. To me that's a bit concerning. Managers that try to impose their own style over the strengths of a squad usually either have to concede and change or fail.

Nope, Wimmer will have to take a share of the blame as well. Is it a poor squad he inherited? Yep. But there are a fair few poor squads in this league (we were beaten by one yesterday) so getting a couple of results shouldn't be beyond any coach that belongs at this level. His persevering with a shape that's not working, with a keeper that can't catch a cold and with playing our best player out of position is fuck all to do with Kettlewell...

We’re in safe hands with the current Club and Well Society boards. https://thewellsociety.uk/2025/03/29/progress-and-priorities-our-pre-agm-report/

Some of you are living in cloud cuckoo land.

Attended the Well Society AGM tonight online. Biggest take away was the explanation re outside investment. Its been put on hold for now until the Society and Club can get their houses in order. It was felt that the previous board embarked on a search for outside investment without the club being on a sound footing financially and without actually knowing what the outside investment would look like or what it was for. Martin Grey gave the analogy of going into Dragons Den looking for investment saying that we were skint, didnt know how much money we needed and that we didnt know what we would do with it when we got it. No surprise that the only offer that turned up was Barmack. Im summarising, but he said that both Society and Club Boards are still open to outside investment but before proceeding down that line we need to get all our governance issues in order so that the club is steuctured priperly, do what we can to grow the club organically and get a proper valuation of the club so we are in a much stronger position when we go looking for that investment Greg Anderson also advised that there are 2 more strategic partnerships in the pipeline following on from the successful collaboration with Social Jungle over the Well Society App. He wasnt able to provide further detail on those at present. There was some discussion surrounding how the Society operated in the past and the changes that have taken place in the last 7 months to ensure that Society Members have a voice and are no longer paid lip service. There was also discussion around the closer ties and enhanced communications with the club board. I left the meeting feeling that it was still early days for the new Society and Club Boards but many improvements have been made, with a lot of work still to be done. Ultimately it feels like things are heading in the right direction and that lines of communication are now open.

Sportscene extended to 3 hours long then?

Am I missing something? Is quiz nights and getting some free comedians in the master plan? Fair enough it outwardly looks like more effort than previous, but still a mile off the mark.

Can see this being a heavy defeat tbh. 5-1 home win

I agree with most of what you usually say Joe, but not over this. That said, I would not have started Miller for the reasons you state ie. too much at stake. However at some point late on in the game, we could debate the precise time, when it was clear to all and sundry that we weren't going to win or even draw the tie. Miller should have been introduced and given his first cap. Just 5 or 10 minutes. His first chance to play for the full team, play at a Hampden international, get used to the international stage, whatever. The lad could have beee told something along the lines of "The ties lost, just go out and savour the occasion." However that opportunity was missed due to a safety first risk averse manager. Thats one of the reasons we haven't progressed at international level for decades and won't do so for years to come. Our youths are being mismanaged.

I refer to the likes of, Slicker, Conway, Hirst, Adams, Dykes and a large list of non Scots given caps over the years because they had a Scottish Granny or Grandpa etc at the expense of homegrown talent like Miller, Turnbull, Doak, to name a few in a long list. The whole Scotland set up is a shambles as some of the best and promising talent in the country is constantly being overlooked.

I would take a punt its at George Hirst, capped under 17, 19 and 20 for England. Grandad Scottish. Should be nowhere near squad in my opinion. I want guys passionaite for our country, not guys only picking us for convenience

I knew Davie quite well, was at FP working the day he signed, testing the fire alarm, the day after we beat Celtic in the semi I had the good fortune to be sent to do a 'wee job' at his house, the job took 15 minutes, Davie produced half a loaf of toast and jam and 2 cups of tea, we sat until 2 o'clock shooting the shit of all things fitba and Motherwell, he was proud as punch (Coop was suspended for the replay, which makes that semi victory even sweeter in my eyes, and his too probably), a real down to earth guy, when the players came back from training we had a wee ritual, I'd sit on the wall at wee Andy's howf and the players would traipse back to the dressing room along the front of the main stand, Nijholt would tap a cigarette and Coop would stop for a chat, Stevie Kirk had the Billy big baws attitude strangely. I'm pretty sure John Chapman funded the signing, or Tommy asked him for 50k for a player and when he found out who it was almost jumped over the knowetop wall to get his wallet

There would have been no harm whatsoever in bringing on Lennon Miller with a few minutes to go. By that time the tie was well and truly lost. Give him his first cap. That kind of attitude is what is holding our international team back.

He didn't just mention it. His quote would be an answer to a direct question from a journo. More importantly, I hope Max Johnston is having a few conversations with Miller to tell him how good it is to make the move away from Scotland and play in Europe.

Of the players that featured on the right this season, either in a back three or as wing back, only McGinn has been an upgrade on SOD. And McGinn's best performances were when he was paired with SOD. They covered for each other when one pushed forward and looked comfortable doing it. Kaleta was the messiah for a week or so and could do no wrong in the eyes of a good few. Then we saw how poor he really was defensively. Casey was tried on the right side of the back three and anyone who was at Perth saw how much of a disaster that was. Even Casey himself going by the rumours of the fall out with Kettlewell. Katroumbis has hardly played so hard to assess. Sparrow has far more energy than most but his defensive positioning is poor and has cost us goals......although he is being asked to play a role that is new to him. Those criticising SOD as a centre back do have a point. But then Balmer, Blaney and Casey seem to get a much easier ride when they lose concentration or pass directly to the opposition. Or does anybody really think those three are error free? SOD is certainly not the player he was several years ago but I believe he can contribute as a squad player and as an 'old head' that can set an example to those less experienced. On that basis I am happy to see him back for another season. I do expect Wimmer to find a preferred starter for that right side though.

I think that this kind of makes wellgirl's point about O'Donnell receiving a disproportionate amount of stick. Casey, for me, is responsible for just as many opposition goals and he seems to get an easier ride than O'Donnell from fans...

Well, they're 40% of the defense, so that seems fair 😄

Andy Halliday called out Carver's comments on SSB

RIP smudge

Thank you. Her name was smudge. We will win for her x. It's been a long day x

Mark Reynolds for £100,000 is the one that stands out for me.

I'm starting to think there must be a version of Winter Wonderland I've never heard of.

The appeal process is a joke as well, we win the appeal, Balmer is clear to play, but we still lost the game. There are never any sanctions on the match referees, VAR, or the cheating opposition players who conned the ref in the 1st place. These are not one off incidents but the comfy wee clique that is the SFA do feck all to address the issue.

we need a win next week to ease relegation fears , fuck all about the top 6. Is it better that Hearts win today and secure top 6 meaning they have fuck all to play for next week ?

Win next week which could happen as league is so up and down and we could be at least 6pts in front of killie ross c and dundee who are all away from home to celtic stmirren and hibs. Today was poor and pitch was always going to sort that out but sending off sealed it but cmon I'd rather be in our position than any of those below. Looks like an interesting last 6 games and when the going gets tough? Well we can actually say based on last 40 years we will be there.

Kettlewell is largely to blame for this shambles. He signed dud after dud and walked when things inevitably went belly up, blaming the fans. He has ruined our club.

If we finish second bottom…… which is looking more and more likely. There is no way on earth we are beating Livingston over two games…. Not a chance in hell.

I never thought that the Well Society's most important function would become protecting the club from a large section of its own fans, but there you go.

I don't expect top 6 at all Beat Killie next weekend and see what happens, for me the damage was done before Michael Wimmer came in

I remember when he signed and me thinking we’d bought a guy who was completely done, no pace and a little bit heavy. Also that he’d hardly played any games in about a year and was too much of a blue nose to perform at any other club. i was 100% wrong. By a country mile the finest football player ive ever seen in a motherwell jersey. It was an absolute honour to watch him play week in, week out. Every game there was a guaranteed “how the fk did he do that” moment. An incredible talent, sadly gone far too soon.

Yes you could say this is it, the 1990s were my first decade supporting Motherwell so have happy memories of those kits. The 96-97 home kit makes me think of Ian Ross scoring against Celtic in the last minute, the white away top makes me think of Owen Coyle day at Ibrox The white kit mentioned from 1998-99 I always associate with a game I went to at Tannadice when we ripped Dundee United apart 3-0, stuff like that really Not suggesting the Xara kits were of great quality though

Heard Robinson on Sportsound. Sounded like a bitter ex.

"If true" is the classic phrase of the internet troll. "I just heard Keir Starmer is going to ban Scottish football fans from attending live games. Outrageous, if true". Basically just a mechanism for spouting nonsense. Given that Maswanhise played 25 minutes at Dundee and zero minutes at Ibrox, it's a pretty long rest he's getting.

It was. Almost completely "amber", with a claret trim and the cursive MFC for a badge.

He's the best striker at the club and he's got two more years to prove it.

Or we keep him and he’s a success next season, we don’t know but no need to panic yet. If he’s the same next season your doom and gloom approach will have been proven correct but I’m not ready to throw him on the scrap heap over an unfortunate season. Many players go through this in their careers and have then become successful at clubs, why can’t he be the same next season?

They could easily have buried us in the first half, but despite all the pressure and chances, they never got more than a goal ahead. I was right behind the goals, quite low down and I couldn't see Dougie at the second goal. A good ball played in and the next thing, the ball was nestling in the back of the net. Absolute scenes. Psycho's goal was just out of this world. I said to my old man at the time and watching it back confirms this. When that goal went in, if you look at the Celtic players, it looks like someone has run round and stuck a pin in them all. They all just instantly deflated. Kirkie's goal was the icing on the icing. I remember at the time that it seemed to take an age for the ref to actually give it, but watching it back, it's only 2 or 3 seconds. Those last few mins, knowing that the game was in the bag are the best feeling i've ever had as a football fan. Even my old man, who was quite elderly at the time, was bouncing up and down, singing and hugging random cunts ! What a feeling that was !

Max Johnston back in the squad too.