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No Motherwell fan hates Rangers more than they love Motherwell. Some hate Rangers more than they hate Celtic though, and that seems to get up your nose, or at least under your skin enough to make comments like that. Halliday is playing better because he is being used properly in a system that he can contribute to. I think we can all unite and get behind that, no? 😘😘😘

When will people realise that Clarke and the rest of the Scotland management are useless fuds, constantly filling the squads with bang average at best non Scots just because their Granny or Granpa ate shortbread at the expense of homegrown talent like Miller etc. Its time for the whole management team to be binned and replaced.

What!!! Such lunacy, changes during a game?? Everyone knows you take at least 6 months to change midfield formation unless of course injuries accelerate that, thus enabling you to randomly place players in various positions which they are unfamiliar with. Someone needs to have a word with MW before this gets out of hand and let him know, that is not the Motherwell way. If it’s not nipped in the bud, next thing you know they’ll be clean sheets, entertaining football, goals from open play and cheering crowds. FFS get it sorted!!

Do you think a football club should live outwith its means? If not, it doesnt matter whether the club is fan owned or not. Its the job of the club board to raise and expand existing revenue streams so we have a bigger budget to work with. We have a new chairman, directors and a CEO to deal with that. Its the Society's job to generate sufficient cash reserves to ensure that should the time come we have a big enough overdraft facility to satisfy the governing bodies and deal with any shortfall from operational revenues (apologies for any clumsy terminology, Im not an business person). Any investor is looking for a return on their money, its not free cash. Thats why Im 100% against any investor having majority control of the club as they could literally bleed us dry. Nothing wrong with encouraging investment thats a win win for the club and investor, but thats a whole lot more difficult to find. I would have thought after last summer we might have put all this kind of chat to bed. Its been less than 12 months since we saw off Barmack. Look at the changes that have occured structurally at the club during that time. I think those responsible need a little bit of credit for that and maybe a bit of support in moving onto the next phase?

Good points grizzly,hanley and ralston can't get near there club sides but yet clarke sees them as the answer for a two legged tie,there's no way either would be sharp enough for the demands.not even being biased towards max johnstone but he should have been involved,he had the balls to make the move abroad and further his career and has impressed in doing so but yet we stick with ralston who seems the type that will happily sit on his arse and not play as long as he's doing it at his beloved celtic.

Personal view is the 'Scottish International' bit skewed expectations. If' he'd come up through the ranks , never got to Scotland squad I suspect there would be more positivity towards him. This is a local lad who we signed from a fellow SPL club back in 2020 and for 5 years given his best. He's about to be 33 years old and no longer has the engine to get up and down the flanks. Being part of central defence doesn't seem the natural fit as he does switch off. I much prefer him moving forward. Given he's aging and been around the club for 5 years, lives locally etc I can see why he's been extended for another year. A very decent squad player. Robinson, Alexander, Hammel, Kettlewell and now Wimmer have all wanted him around, between them they've seen enough , shame not all fans feel the same way but I generally believe this is more about expectations than what he's delivered.

I’m loving that the club shop are offering some old school shirts. The Amber matchwinner shirt currently on offer brings back happy memories. It was the season that sparked the build of the cup winning side and it was the first Steelmen shirt Davie Cooper, Nick Cusack and George Burley ever wore. The newly added Pony shirts are a refreshing addition to the norm of Macron and unbranded naff. But why have they gone for the Battenberg? I mean for f¥ck sake !!! Its predecessor was an absolute bute, was the first whole hoop in years and hosted one of our most successful seasons in living history. 100% missed opportunity!!!

No way the club are offloading a player we paid a 6 figure sum for without trying to re-hab him and recoup some of our outlay. It would be very poor business to do so. The 3 injuries he has had are all different, so to suggest that his body isnt equipped for Scottish football without any further knowledge or medical information is presumptious at best. Given that he has 2 years left on his contract he wont be going anywhere. Better to offload some of the players we already know are not up to the standard/fitness required for Wimmerball and give us options/support up front. The loan boys will be away with Armstrong the only one Id consider trying to get permanently. Also, I think we need to be careful with suggesting that his injuries are "convenient". He may well be finding it difficult to settle, but how do you fake having surgery and a metal plate in your wrist? We need to give the boy a break and all the support we can as a club AND as a support.

Apologies in advance, long winded post 🙂 I started going to Motherwell with my da' (because my old man was a 'Well fan when he was younger) in about 1972/3 and got my first season ticket (old main stand, 5 rows back, 5 seats in) in '75 for the start of the new 10 team premier league. A few games into the season, we played Rangers and the row in front of me was full of their fans. This was my first experience of them (aged about 12). A sat with my old man and we were sat between a couple of folk that some on here may know. Don St John, a disabled club singer and Andy Edgar (later to become Hamilton Accies photographer). Early in the game, Don called John Grieg a 'clown' and was harassed, threatened, had a punch swung at him and was told for the whole game that he was 'getting it' down the back stairs. Over the years, I've witnessed and ended up sadly getting involved in numerous and regular altercations with their fans in the main stand. Call it luck, call it whatever, but I've never actually had to deal with that kind of shit from Celtic fans. Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not saying they don't have cunty fans as well, i've just never had to deal with any. As a result of these experiences at a young age, it gave me a really deep seated hatred of them (chuck in the 95/96 cup semi for good measure). Celtic to me are just another team that I love seeing us beat, along with any other team we play but I have to admit I get that extra wee spring in my step when we pump the currant buns. None of this has anything to do with religion or background. If I followed a team cause of where I went to school i'd be a h*n and if I followed my pals from my childhood who i played football with up the park, i'd probably, on balance, be a tim. I'm neither. I'm a Motherwell fan and have inflicted the same on my kids 🙂 I certainly don't hate Rangers more than I love Motherwell and I certainly don't have any 'sympathies' for the other lot.

Two for us and one for them?

It matters because of the way he left and the narrative he tried to create. I stayed with him to the end and would have been happy for his legacy to be one of a half decent Motherwell manager who eventually ran out of ideas. He changed that. No one else. For that reason, I dont want to leave him any way to justify himself. He shat it. The players are proving it now.

Night and day from the old regime and kudos to the WS board for all their efforts in promoting the society and club into the wider community with efforts like last night. The icing on the cake of course would be an announcement of some major inward investment that would give us the transformation that we all want.

DC was a wonderful player (always remember Gullit's assessment of him) but credit to us too for giving him a new lease of life and allowing him to virtually play as he wished. One thing I particularly noticed about David when I saw him every week was that opponents couldn't even get near enough to kick him, he was so aware and so instinctive as a player. I was fortunate enough to work with his gentleman of a brother, who gave me Davie's MoTM engraved wine glass for his performance against Falkirk in the 1991 cup match when I retired. An easy thing to raise a glass to DC when the sad day in March comes around each year. Thirty-eight is dreadfully young to be passing away these days. Thanks for the memories, Mr Cooper.

Odonnell is an excellent professional and at no point in the years he’s played with us have I doubted his effort or doubted his willingness to be here. (We’ve had a lot of players who would be happy to be elsewhere and defenders not as good as him, who have been loved by fans). im ok with him signing, i think he is a decent player and worth keeping.

I was brought up in the 60s and schooled in a Rangers environment and I loved football. My first strip was a Rangers one, my first game attended was a Rangers one. I was oblivious to the other stuff around that (at first) but as I grew older and went to more games that changed, the culmination in that was a game v Hibs, sitting with my dad in the posh seats, (his bosses season tkts) while the smartly dressed guy in front with wife by his side stood up and called Pat Quinn every sweary anti catholic insult you could think of and nothing was said. I was 12 and can remember it as if it was yesterday, I never went back and drifted away from senior football until after a change of school in EK I met lads who were Well fans and found my spiritual home, 50 years later, still lifelong friends. I have a deep rooted dislike of Rangers and Celtic and everything both of them stand for. With the odd exception you cannot have a reasonable football discussion with fans of either, who view everything through their tinted glasses and cannot comprehend any other view. Deep as that feeling is I do not dislike either of them more than I love my club which stands for everything I believe in, and I believe all of us who take the harder road of supporting a 'smaller' club do so from that perspective. I honestly do not believe any Well fan hates either of the arse cheeks (detestable as they are) more than support our club; that is our overriding purpose.

My dad was at ibrox back in 1961.....I love my mum......her reply to me yesterday.............And the boys in blue went down 1-2 to the boys in claret and Amber 🙂 Classic

I read a book about reverse psychology. It wasn't very good. You shouldn't buy it.

Wee Bazza: we're simply the best. Michael Wimmer: no, the wurst! Help ma boab, I've done a grizzly 😱!

0-1 defeat

We’re in safe hands with the current Club and Well Society boards. https://thewellsociety.uk/2025/03/29/progress-and-priorities-our-pre-agm-report/

Attended the Well Society AGM tonight online. Biggest take away was the explanation re outside investment. Its been put on hold for now until the Society and Club can get their houses in order. It was felt that the previous board embarked on a search for outside investment without the club being on a sound footing financially and without actually knowing what the outside investment would look like or what it was for. Martin Grey gave the analogy of going into Dragons Den looking for investment saying that we were skint, didnt know how much money we needed and that we didnt know what we would do with it when we got it. No surprise that the only offer that turned up was Barmack. Im summarising, but he said that both Society and Club Boards are still open to outside investment but before proceeding down that line we need to get all our governance issues in order so that the club is steuctured priperly, do what we can to grow the club organically and get a proper valuation of the club so we are in a much stronger position when we go looking for that investment Greg Anderson also advised that there are 2 more strategic partnerships in the pipeline following on from the successful collaboration with Social Jungle over the Well Society App. He wasnt able to provide further detail on those at present. There was some discussion surrounding how the Society operated in the past and the changes that have taken place in the last 7 months to ensure that Society Members have a voice and are no longer paid lip service. There was also discussion around the closer ties and enhanced communications with the club board. I left the meeting feeling that it was still early days for the new Society and Club Boards but many improvements have been made, with a lot of work still to be done. Ultimately it feels like things are heading in the right direction and that lines of communication are now open.

Sportscene extended to 3 hours long then?

Can see this being a heavy defeat tbh. 5-1 home win

I agree with most of what you usually say Joe, but not over this. That said, I would not have started Miller for the reasons you state ie. too much at stake. However at some point late on in the game, we could debate the precise time, when it was clear to all and sundry that we weren't going to win or even draw the tie. Miller should have been introduced and given his first cap. Just 5 or 10 minutes. His first chance to play for the full team, play at a Hampden international, get used to the international stage, whatever. The lad could have beee told something along the lines of "The ties lost, just go out and savour the occasion." However that opportunity was missed due to a safety first risk averse manager. Thats one of the reasons we haven't progressed at international level for decades and won't do so for years to come. Our youths are being mismanaged.

I refer to the likes of, Slicker, Conway, Hirst, Adams, Dykes and a large list of non Scots given caps over the years because they had a Scottish Granny or Grandpa etc at the expense of homegrown talent like Miller, Turnbull, Doak, to name a few in a long list. The whole Scotland set up is a shambles as some of the best and promising talent in the country is constantly being overlooked.

I would take a punt its at George Hirst, capped under 17, 19 and 20 for England. Grandad Scottish. Should be nowhere near squad in my opinion. I want guys passionaite for our country, not guys only picking us for convenience

I knew Davie quite well, was at FP working the day he signed, testing the fire alarm, the day after we beat Celtic in the semi I had the good fortune to be sent to do a 'wee job' at his house, the job took 15 minutes, Davie produced half a loaf of toast and jam and 2 cups of tea, we sat until 2 o'clock shooting the shit of all things fitba and Motherwell, he was proud as punch (Coop was suspended for the replay, which makes that semi victory even sweeter in my eyes, and his too probably), a real down to earth guy, when the players came back from training we had a wee ritual, I'd sit on the wall at wee Andy's howf and the players would traipse back to the dressing room along the front of the main stand, Nijholt would tap a cigarette and Coop would stop for a chat, Stevie Kirk had the Billy big baws attitude strangely. I'm pretty sure John Chapman funded the signing, or Tommy asked him for 50k for a player and when he found out who it was almost jumped over the knowetop wall to get his wallet

There would have been no harm whatsoever in bringing on Lennon Miller with a few minutes to go. By that time the tie was well and truly lost. Give him his first cap. That kind of attitude is what is holding our international team back.

He didn't just mention it. His quote would be an answer to a direct question from a journo. More importantly, I hope Max Johnston is having a few conversations with Miller to tell him how good it is to make the move away from Scotland and play in Europe.

Of the players that featured on the right this season, either in a back three or as wing back, only McGinn has been an upgrade on SOD. And McGinn's best performances were when he was paired with SOD. They covered for each other when one pushed forward and looked comfortable doing it. Kaleta was the messiah for a week or so and could do no wrong in the eyes of a good few. Then we saw how poor he really was defensively. Casey was tried on the right side of the back three and anyone who was at Perth saw how much of a disaster that was. Even Casey himself going by the rumours of the fall out with Kettlewell. Katroumbis has hardly played so hard to assess. Sparrow has far more energy than most but his defensive positioning is poor and has cost us goals......although he is being asked to play a role that is new to him. Those criticising SOD as a centre back do have a point. But then Balmer, Blaney and Casey seem to get a much easier ride when they lose concentration or pass directly to the opposition. Or does anybody really think those three are error free? SOD is certainly not the player he was several years ago but I believe he can contribute as a squad player and as an 'old head' that can set an example to those less experienced. On that basis I am happy to see him back for another season. I do expect Wimmer to find a preferred starter for that right side though.

I think that this kind of makes wellgirl's point about O'Donnell receiving a disproportionate amount of stick. Casey, for me, is responsible for just as many opposition goals and he seems to get an easier ride than O'Donnell from fans...

Well, they're 40% of the defense, so that seems fair 😄

Andy Halliday called out Carver's comments on SSB

RIP smudge

Thank you. Her name was smudge. We will win for her x. It's been a long day x

Mark Reynolds for £100,000 is the one that stands out for me.

I'm starting to think there must be a version of Winter Wonderland I've never heard of.

I actually don’t think it’s purely football related. I think some of our pro union thinking supporters think that when some of us have a go at Rangers and their Union Jack waving, god save the king, drum bangers, that they take this as a personal slight on them and their beliefs. i think we have a large number of pro Scotland/ pro independence supporters at the club and for some reason a minority of our pro union fans think some of us are pro Celtic……. Speaking as a pro independence supporter,(sorry if that annoys anyone) I can’t stand either Rangers or Celtic, but I do get a bit of sick in my mouth when I see the butchers apron (Union Jack) But I do think anyone who has the urge to post on this forum clearly does so as they are Motherwell fans through and through and I don’t believe anyone hates teams more than they love our side…. As that’d be mental.

To be honest, i didnt think otherwise. What seems very strange however is that you are absolutley sure some of our fans hate Rangers more than they love Motherwell...... but yet you spew venom (rightly or wrongly) at the other arse cheek and dont stop to think it could be viewed in the exact same way...... A bit of self awareness mate goes a long way 😉

How it started... How it finished...

Id love the top 6 place to go down to the wire between us and Hearts and we have them at Fir Park last game before the split. As well as being a ding dong battle it would put some much needed money in the clubs coffers as that would attract a big crowd to make up for some of the poor attendances of late.

When he who should not be named was in charge that was a definite possibility. Not out woods yet but definitely better position

Turns out Norway's football association is as bad as ours. The clubs lose the vote to ditch VAR thanks to the large number of lower league and amateur clubs who voted to keep it - despite the fact none of them have VAR.

MIchael Stewart on Wednesday, "Now Hearts are in the top six they'll be there for the rest of the season" *Checks table three and a half days later....*

The club wasn't a consideration for that egotistical twat

The " Bowling club" analogy is a perfect description of the WS, creditable fundraising and community efforts but not equipped or capable of identifying or securing significant investment. As has been said many times our fanbase is not large enough and never will be to realise true fan ownership, the WS is a piggy bank fund to help the club financially as required. This is great but I can't help thinking that the main criteria any potential investor is looking for is control of the club for their cash, which they won't get with the WS. So for me as a non Member the fundraising is good, but the WS identifying and securing additional significant investment is not going to happen

Getting top 6 is always going to be a bonus. It's all about staying up then a reset for next season. Early signs are good from wimmer so needs loads of time

Gemmill and Clarke only retain their jobs because those who run the SFA are too insular and too stupid to see beyond their own four walls.

Obviously Robinson taking advantage of being able to say anything at a football game with no consequences by spouting forth shite