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Forget about motherwell and 6 points. Do you really think the punishment fits the crime? The season was given the go ahead to kick off under conditions that covid protocols were followed by all clubs and killie and st mirren failed to do so, caused an outbreak and affected the fixture schedule. And this is ok - just a slap on the wrist? Really? For me, 3 months ago, they should have been given a heavy fine and rearranged the matches. Now though, with a lot less of a window to reschedule games, the weather affecting "all weather" pitches, the lower leagues postponed, the entire country on lockdown, celtic doing their best to null and void the season and most importantly covid still looming (which could bite anyone in the ass at any moment), I just cannot fathom the logic of this outcome. This bizarre notion that killie and st mirren should be "happy" with the punishment is laughable. Its not a punishment otherwise, and cant believe they've not only got away with it but had their fines reduced. You literally couldn't fucking write it!

Football aside, we are in the middle of a pandemic and no matter what you think of our government and how they've handled it, they need EVERYBODY on side, behaving, following rules to contain the virus. The fact people haven't is the very reason this country's in this mess. You only need to look at countries like Australia and NZ who acted quicker and, critically, harder than the UK to see that. Killie and st mirren (the clubs, not rogue players) have, by their own admission, FAILED to comply. So what message is an absolutely pathetic punishment sending out? Yeah break the rules, it doesn't really matter. Had they ordered the games to be replayed but given killie and st m a proper, non-suspended fine (say 150k) then ok - they have been dealt a proper punishment. 10k with 10k suspended is fuck all, you will make more than that back off pay per view streams of the games. This debacle has taken over 3 months to close out and now, the only innocent parties in all this are losing out by having to shoehorn in the extra games before the split. What if we now have a covid outbreak, are out of action for 2 weeks and then need to fit an additional 4 games in before the split? I get you're happy with the outcome - I would be in your shoes - but if you don't accept that not only is the punishment a joke, but also that Motherwell and to a lesser extent, hamilton, have been fucked over here, there is no point even trying to debate it. I only hope nicola sturgeon doesn't cotton on the the fact the sfa clearly don't give a shit about protocol breaches because, with everything else going on with celtic, and the lower leagues postponing, it would not surprise me if she suspended the game.

I know I have suggested before and been laughed at but why dont we ask Chelsea if Billy Gilmour was available on loan, yes I know answer probably no but hey if you don't ask.......

We need to remember that like last season this season could finish at anytime and whoever is bottom at that time will be relegated. The bar was set when Hearts were sent down. Going into the latter part of the season the quicker we get ourselves off the bottom the better.

My god the doom merchants are out in full tonight and that's despite us not even playing today!!!! Turn today's results around and see-- if you want to--a better picture; Accies didn't win and neither Killie or St Mirren got away from us. Yup the County result was unexpected but we have 3 games in hand on them. Meantime ,whatever happens tomorrow happens. Remembering that it's a free hit the worst case scenario is we lose ( as expected) but we move on knowing that GA will have had another look at his team in action. There is also 2 weeks left of the ' window'. No need for wrist slitting yet.

I don't really expect anything from tomorrow but I'll watch just the same with that small glimmer of hope that we might just cause an upset. Keep the faith folks, keep the faith.

If the new gaffer starts moving us up the table with the same set of core players, then maybe those players need to take more responsibility for their efforts so far this season.

Aye, but how many have had 2 games postponed because of those breaches, and would've added a third, had they got their way? Were St Mirren told by their health board they couldn't play, or was that their own decision? They can celebrate this as a victory for 'justice' and 'common sense' all they want. It's actually a victory for lackadaisical bastards with a distinct lack of common sense sticking 2 fingers up at the rules that were put in place to let them work when thousands of others were not afforded that privilege. It smacks of the same pish Celtic tried to pull. Instead of holding their hands up, it's 'could've happened anywhere/to anyone' and 'poor wee us, we're the real victims here'. And no, I don't want the points, I'd rather Motherwell skelped the pair of yous, fair and square.

We were not the subject of any proceedings, so we have literally nothing to appeal.

really couldnt care less if O'Donnell signs or not, have been completely underwhelmed by his efforts for us.

Fortunately for us, the league would be called on points won per game, so if it were to happen right now we would be above both accuse and county. unfortunately, when we lose tomorrow, we drop below them. So no pressure lads.

He’s struggled to compete in midfield all season. Tomorrow would be an exception rather than a rule.

Would also help if we could stop putting the ball in the net for the opposition most weeks.

and if he cant, with that said core of players they are just as pish as we though, and signed on robbos watch

Got to hope, but I'm unconvinced we'll move far without a good few signings. Whatever happens, the 'nowhere near relegation' patter was clearly wide of the mark.

Bottom of the league. Alexander out...

We had taken 10 of 15 points from our opening 5 matches. The first game was trouncing ICT 3 nil with Lasley scoring a screamer and I remember being in a beer garden after it hearing that Any Winehouse was dead. There was also the game Hateley scored the free kick at Paisley to put us top.

Unfortunately our fans, as well as most others, tend to be partisan towards their own clubs interests and see things through a rather warped prism. If the roles were reversed most of the folk in here would be doing full 180s. Ultimately the correct decision has been made and the SFA has proven it's self far more competent than the catastrophically inept ghouls running the SPFL.

What would have been the outcome of this whole sorry affair if the two clubs involved weren't Motherwell and Hamilton but Celtic and Rangers! Oh, that's right there wouldn't have been an appeal in the first place!

As far as I am aware NHS Ayrshire and Arran did not ask the full squad to self isolate for no reason. They asked them to self isolate because players within the squad had tested positive and the wider squad had not followed the protocol put in place to allow Kilmarnock to control and manage the situation themselves. Other clubs in the Spfl (except St Mirren) have controlled outbreaks and have therefore been able to fulfil fixtures. The rule was that if you could not fulfil the fixture because protocol had been breached you lost the three points. I don't think there is anything laughable about applying the rules. What is laughable is that the SFA (as always) are making it up as they go along contradicting Scottish Government guidelines and completing misjudging the importance of sending out a strong message that professional football in this country takes its responsibility seriously in playing its (very) small part in getting us out of a National disaster. I don't think that is laughable at all. It's not really about the six points.

I tell you what I find laughable is Killie and St Mirren fans thinking it would be at all different if it was they that had two games canx at short notice and handed 6 points by the SPFL. I am sure 100% would be raging at this injustice and would be marching on Fir Park in solidarity with Motherwell. The facts are it has been handled poorly by the governing bodies. Hamilton and Motherwell have been messed about here also. The fact it took almost 3 months to resolve is actually laughable ! The majority of Motherwell fans probably felt the initial punishment was harsh the rest were ripping the pish. You are at it if you think Killie and St Mirren fans would have acted at all differently.....

Few inaccuracies in your post: "full squad had to isolate" ..... "minor covid breaches" ...... care to square that circle? 6 points yes but 6 goals don't affect GD. Rules were simple, if not this is the penalty. Don't do A, B or C, wash your D, avoid E and definitely don't do F. Only minor thing in this whole affair is the punishment given for being roasters. Also love a bit of whataboutery.

Find some of the comments on this thread laughable. We were told by NHS Ayrshire and Arran that our full squad had to isolate, we had no choice whether to play the game or not. We literally had no players. The decision to make the full squad isolate was a health board decision, and we've seen this vary across the country. The decision was always going to be overturned as it was a laughable decision in the first place. How many 3-0 defeats have been handed out in England for same reason this season? None. I understand why you would be annoyed at losing out on an easy 6 pts but fuck me, the original penalty was farcical. Every club will have had minor covid breaches. Was only a few months ago Motherwell directors weren't paying any attention whatsoever to COVID rules in Coleraine. If anyone thinks Motherwell should be awarded 6 pts and 6 goals for this then they need to have a word with themselves.

The SPFL (via independent panel) gave the decision in our favour. It was the SFA that overturned it. I’m not sure how much ‘blame’ can be aimed at the SPFL here. The process of having the independent panel adjudicate in the interests of fairness was the right one I think and the decision was pretty clearly justified. They wanted executive powers to try and sort these things out before the season even began, and weren’t given them. I don’t think they’ve done much wrong. I know that the SPFL and the SFA are separate bodies, but they’d surely be on a similar page on matters such as this. By cancelling one another out they’ve just made the game in Scotland into a joke, which makes the end outcome much more infuriating than if the initial punishment had just been the slap on the wrist and token fine. As others have said, I don’t think the club should be saying anything on the decision publicly. I would expect Burrows et al to be following up in private however, for all the good it will do. I doubt that stipulations over what players can and can’t play would had to have been outlined as part of the decision.

Unquestionably sporting advantage gained. Cynical move by both clubs? Killie have more of a defence than St Mirren do as Ayrshire NHS told them to cancel. Kinda makes a mockery of the stringent rules most other clubs have been adopting to mitigate things. Through no fault of our own we've been messed about, been awarded points, had them taken away, now have to find time to play the games, just reeks of incompetence and mismanagement. Rules in black and white, flouted, so what's the defence? Just shows in life if you get an expensive lawyer, they can even get OJ off.

What do we have to appeal though? We were under no threat of sanction. I tend to agree with the earlier posts that whilst we have been considerably inconvenienced the best course of action for us it to keep our counsel, at least publicly, and ensure that six points from six are secured when the fixtures are eventually played. If the club make a song and dance about it and you just stand to be accused of showing desperation in trying to get six points without earning them. I think it's fine as fans for us to make the obvious points but much as we've been messed around we would ultimately gain nothing from any public complaining.

Joke, how can they even justify this. Just another reason why I’m increasingly fed up with football. Totally done

Scottish football is a fucking joke.

Good player and signing. Will walk straight into the team. Knows the club and will give 100% for the cause. Welcome back Stevie.

Aye You are right enough. Last season when he scored 11 and had 9 assists even tho the season was cut short, I do remember thinking "I like him, but why would we want to sign a goalscoring, multiple assists a season winger when we have Seedorf & Hylton"

So we have The Graduate back, here's to you Mr Robinson ... I'll get ma coat.

Billy Davies second game was against Rangers and we beat them 1-0 which no one saw coming after getting pumped 5-1 in Perth on the Saturday. So if we sign a couple of fringe players from Man City and Everton this week I think we have a real chance here.