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The Robinson thread is the most obvious one that springs to mind. Your pal was getting it tight so you decided that was that, discussion over, which was baffling given it was practicality the only thing posters wanted to discuss at the time and the forum was otherwise dead. Around the time of the P & B mass exodus if I remember correctly. Back on topic - to be clear - I think it would be an absolute travesty if the Bois group were to be lost to the Club, wider fans, and the community. Far from sneering, I have lot of respect for what they have achieved, but, sometimes blunt criticism is deserved and is actually very necessary. They seem to have lost all sense of self policing that was evident in the past and have crossed the line on one too many occasions. The first thing is admitting when that happens. The lack of self awareness, and the "we are the victim" narrative gives me the boak. As much as us "outsiders" might be criticised for not being in the know, there are clearly some who are so close that they can't, or simply will not, see the wood for the trees. Support the team and don't act like wee dicks, it's not that difficult.

Former Scotland manager George Burley undergoing cancer treatment Great player for Motherwell.

David and The Riddler talking nonsense again. At least we're still allowed to debate this topic, that's a change for you David when the debate isn't going the way you would like. I've given the Bois as a group plenty of praise in the past and acknowledged all of the good things they do. In fact I've yet to see one person who has offered criticism that hasn't. However, the narrative that the group is trying to push that they are some sort of hard done by innocents is simply not true.

Didn't Howard Sammeroff have 4 clean sheets back in the day when Shuggy/Gardner, I can't recall who was injured or Tomtom dropped them, then was howked in favour of the other? Even getting a chance it's hard to keep your place somehow