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I’m assuming you mean during the game as opposed to afterwards? Is in game acknowledgment of failure to a group of individuals who have no qualification to opinion beyond entrance fee is something you’d like all players to do from now on? If so, I would suggest you need to come up with some form of sign language code that provides clear indication of what kind of apology is required or given. You know, like, a bow in the direction of the noisy people could mean “thank you, I honestly don’t know what I was thinking” or a curtsy could mean “your constructive feedback is always welcomed, I will endeavour to do better next time”. I’ll of course leave thst in your capable hands but whilst creating your code, can I suggest you have versions of these “non verbal messages” to include “and this time with feeling” versions cos we’d hate for the baying mob to think said player didn’t care

They certainly don't Winalot.

Ahh! The four spring duck technique

And we didn't shite the bed against Rangers despite the media gasbagging about the good of Scottish football

Had some bad touches but also had some good touches and passes today, no better or worse than most of the team today.

Badly need at least seddon and stama back

If they have any inward investment planned they are keeping it secret. I fully expect collection buckets to passed round on match days pretty soon.

I really don't know what everyone was expecting, we are shite and have been nothing but shite for months. The squad is piss poor. Wimmer has a mountain to climb to keep us out of 11th or God forbid 12th.

A lot of users of this forum are more interested in criticising the poster rather than engaging with the substance of the posts. We can all be guilty of it at times, but feck me, it’s exhausting.

When I was at primary we sang "in the jungle with George and Bungle" 🤪

SK THE NAUGHTY MANAGER : Once upon a time there was a football manager who had run out of ideas, could not stop the teams losing streak and was losing the dressing room decided to resign and make up a tale about personal abuse to try to save his tarnished reputation. The gullible media and some of the people believed him, etc etc aye it's all true whatever.

Just listened to the interview from start to finish and it’s fair to say, it was a tough listen. Kettlewell has in my opinion at least, really let himself down here and in the long run, will have done himself no favours. He is clearly a very intense guy. From the day he arrived, he talked at machine gun pace using flowery words that didn’t quite fit with what he was saying. That intensity only ramped up the deeper he got into the job and his levels of personal investment increased. Of course football management is a uniquely demanding role. It demands so much of your time and energy away from the Matchday, often influenced by factors outwith your span of control and attracts critique far beyond what almost any other vocation should expect. Having coached youth, first team and held director of football roles at Semi Pro (Isthmian and national league level) clubs in England I can personally vouch (though on a much smaller scale) for the levels of pressure associated and the impact a life at the sharp end of football can have on you and all those around you. Kettlewell talked about not reading the socials and working all hours and then coming home and seeing the sadness in the families eyes and using that as a driver for quitting. Every manager has that, and given that he has a family “like the Waltons” his chosen vocation and its hours worked, will also be a huge source of pressure. By choosing to work those hours, he will be choosing to miss some of his kids younger years. His choice, his guilt, not the clubs or the fans. Fan abuse is often ill informed and when in that space, often feeling extremely unfair. However, I’d bet the mortgage that the reason Kettlewell chose to walk was because…. - He’s a naturally intense guy who’s response to things going badly is to throw himself further into his work - This then brings a “I’m working my arse off here, what more do you want?” mindset. - He was bringing this mindset home with him (he says he’s an aggressive person) and it was impacting on the family dynamic. - The family begins to resent the cause of this Gollum side to his personality (his thankless employer and fans he seems to love more than us) - The slightest bit of poor fan behaviour witnessed then gets jumped on by the family because they’ve become hyper sensitive to criticism. - Kettlewell knows he’s running out of ideas and perhaps realising that hard work doesn’t fix. The fella has one maybe two opportunities left to prove himself as a manager that can stay the pace without completely losing the nut, burning himself and his family out and resorting to the blame of others. His decision to do that interview reeks of a wounded ego that doesn’t have the self awareness to recognise just how much he has to change.

This game is winnable and (although I’m not saying we will) with a bit of luck we could also win another two or three before the split. I don’t know about any of you folks but I saw an improvement today by the fact that we closed down their defender’s, tried to protect the defence and although we didn’t make any clear cut chances on another day we could have got something out of the game. Onwards and hopefully upwards, keep the faith, glass half full and all that folks.

Im guessing the majority of posters on here werent at the game today as I feel I was watching something totally different from everyone else. First half I thought we competed well enough and were much less passive than under Kettlewell. We werent as composed on the ball as we might have been but we still created a few chances with Maswanhise in particular coming very close. United had more possession but the goal apart, which could have been defended better, they didnt threaten us that much. Second half was much better. We controlled the ball more and put pressure on the United defence and they had to put bodies on the line to keep us out. United did create some chances on the break but Balcombe and our defence dealt with it for the most part. Yes we lost the game today, but it was far more entertaining to watch and I left with a hope and a belief that things are going ro get better. Thats lightyears ahead of the way Ive felt for most of the season. The performance was far from perfect and all our weaknesses and deficiencies are still there for all to see. But if folks dont think that was an improvement today? I dont know what to say. PS Lennon Miller maybe wasnt great today in a creative sense. But he worked his socks off and his interceptions were absolutely vital at times. He dealt with Alan Campbell physically to the extent Campbell was substituted. Maybe cut the boy some slack and appreciate what he does bring instead of what he didnt today.

There is no reason for players to be lacking fitness. If they are something is really wrong

Just back from game . Certainly more Possession today I think and created a few half chances and wee spell of pressure in 2nd half . No malice just an opinion but playing SODs will take us down . Midfield today was powder puff. Bossed , bullied and united fitter sharper and just better in the engine room player to player . Miller guilty a few times of drawing out of challenges as well Feel sorry for Wilson out his depth and looks devoid of confidence . Keeper did well , Casey and right back ok and thought sparrow and two strikers tried hard. We just lack quality and fitness and strength all over the pitch . It is gonna be tough to stay in the league and that is on Kettlewell . We need the manager to work a miracle and quickly

Positive attitude? How dare you!! 🤣🤣

We all know who has left us in this mess. Wimmer needs time to assess everyone and what his best team will be. We need to create a great atmosphere on wed night. If fans get unsettled it plays right into Dundee's hands

There’s nothing pedigree in that squad

Was hoping for new manager..........bounce 🤪

Apparently 600

My question would be why is o'donnell marking their tall central goal scoring striker for a cross and not gordon ?

Stone island jaiket…. Have ‘it!!!!!

Yeah, I just do not rate the guy. It is temporary but I don’t see him winning any games for us with saves before Oxborough gets back. i really don’t see us getting anything today but I just want to see a better performance and a bit of an idea of how Wimmer wants to play. The high tempo stuff looks a potential red herring with Halliday in the middle of the park but we’ll see how it goes.

Cedric Kipre sent off for his club(reims) after five minutes tonight . I thought that cheating bastard Craig Thomson had retired.

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Kettlewell wasn't perfect but some people seem to be breaking their neck to suggest he wasn't abused I personally don't think him getting irate at officials justifies the abuse he got from a section of our fans I was in the pod stand last Saturday and a couple of fans screamed abuse at players for the majority of the game.

Cammy was a real gentleman. He was so pleasant and easy going. I got to know him in the late sixties when I was a reserve player and Cammy drove me to training. I met him a few times in Hamilton and he was always up for a chat. He had a mountain of stories from his long career in the game. He once told me that one of the best things he did in football was to get a leave of absence from his work (he was a PE teacher and part time coach at Fir Park) so that he could be involved in the preparations for the 1991 cup final when he worked along with Tommy McLean and Tom Forsyth. I'm so sad to hear of his passing.

Yes, I did think he was rotten when he played for Scotland...I think he is genuinely one of the luckiest players ever to grace a Scotland top regularly

‘maybe held his hands up’