santheman

So far and only because of the Turnbull money. Next season you've got both Dundee clubs with owners seemingly happy to pump millions into their playing squads. Hibs with 5m American investment. Kilmarnock with Billy Bowie and his blank chequebook Hearts hoovering up all the better players in our league with 15m sitting in the bank from their foundation and Budge and Co happy to keep putting money in. Ross County with Uncle Roy's blank chequebook. Aberdeen with a rich chairman putting his money where his mouth is (not that its helped this season of course) St Johnstone with a potential American buyer with money to burn by the sounds of it. Even St Mirren have Gilmour putting money in albeit in the form of soft loans. Old Firm take care of themselves. That leaves us and with no form of outside investment unless you class the WS as that. Money doesn't always buy success of course but it makes it a damn sight easier. Do we sit back and hope that the teams with more money than us manage to keep f*****g things up and we keep "punching above our weight" and continue to get lucky with bargain basement buys to stay in the top flight. I'm still of the opinion that the WS retain control of the club but if we want to keep competing at this level in light of whats happening at other clubs we need to look at every option otherwise we might find ourselves in the never ending cycle of trying to avoid the dreaded bottom 2 places every season and the type of football that brings

With a possible vote to make grass pitches mandatory for our League it might take them a bit longer than they think🤔. 0https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/premiership-clubs-vote-banning-plastic-32311245

Oh it's pretty well known but if you don't actively follow up on it on a regular basis then folks tend to forget about it which I think has happened. I make a monthly contribution but other than a couple of generic emails over the years I've never been asked directly if I would consider increasing my amount( which I would and have done) If it was a charity you would be getting inundated with begging texts/emails but maybe the WS felt that they didn't want to keep going back to the same people all the time, I don't know. Hopefully with all the recent publicity and investment talk and the need to increase WS funds more people who maybe paid the original £300 but didn't know about, or take up the offer of monthly contributions might consider it now.

They've definitely missed out on revenues by not targeting members who paid the original lump sums to become a member and who would have probably been happy to top that up with ongoing monthly contributions. With the new board focused on income generation hopefully that's one of the things they can pursue.

A new website giving all that kind of info is near completion according to the WS along with new ideas on fundraising. As I said earlier the new board are starting to make their presence felt.

One fly in the ointment could be the Dundee Rangers game being off this midweek which going by the weather forecast is a distinct possibility. It would leave us in a bit of limbo for a few more days, especially if we beat Hibs and Aberdeen beat Dundee. Hopefully it goes ahead and we know whether it's top or bottom 6 by 5pm on Saturday.

It's no secret that the WS board would prefer to retain 51% of the shares but they're also not stupid enough to reject any offer of inward investment out of hand before hearing what it is. That offer will eventually be put to the members and it will be up to us to decide what we vote for, not any one individual The various WS board members will no doubt have their own individual views the same as us but I'm sure any recommendations they put forward will have the best interests of the club at heart. I'd also expect some kind of open forums where people can ask questions and express their views prior to any vote.

Nope They voted in principle to listen to what the investor had to offer and not reject anything out of hand. The vote wasn't to give up the majority shareholding.

They might have had in the past and rightly so but with the election of the new WS board members, what I know of them and what I've heard so far convinces me that we've now got good people on board and they have finally got their act together. One of the board members Jay has posted several insights on P&B to what has been happening behind the scenes so well worth a look. They're actual facts straight from the horses mouth and not some of the pish being spouted on here by a certain person. All the rumours and conspiracy theories being banded about on here are just that, and NOTHING will happen without the agreement of the WS members who will all be privy to what final offer (if any) is on the table before being asked to vote on whether to accept it or not. I doubt anything that doesn't guarantee the WS retaining 51% would succeed unless it was something absolutely spectacular akin to a Euromillions win. I for one would laugh the "rumoured" 1.5m offer for 51% out of the park and so would anyone else in their right mind.

Another day another rumour.🙄 Let's wait until we see whatever's on offer in black and white eh?

He's already had some informal discussions with the Well Society board and I believe more are planned as things develop. Jay gave an update over on P&B a few days ago.

Very true but for all we know maybe he tried to sign another centre half in January but it was just that none were available, we'll probably never know. My memory isn't as good as it was but I don't remember him being particularly shite at crosses in his first season with us but maybe he was?

Going on his performances this year I dont see many "bigger" teams desperate to sign him so he might end up having to take a pay cut regardless. Whether that would be with us or another team is another question but probably best for him to move on to pastures new and try to rediscover his early form.

That 90mins probably summed up our whole season. A complete roller coaster of a ride going through every emotion under the sun from despair to elation. Currently enjoying a pint with some Dundee and Dundee Utd fans in Dundee city centre and what they're saying about their teams could be lifted straight from our forum. One thing I've learned from today is never to post anything during a game because it will inevitably come back and bite you on the arse. MJC Yodo and Steelboy take note🫠

My guess is going by what the Dundee fans are saying that the pitch is currently borderline and with the rain off and strong winds theyre hoping that will be enough to dry the pitch out before 1pm. If it works(optimistic)then game on if not there's going to be a lot of heavy flak going their way. As usual it's the fans who are the losers. Edit to add Just saw a video on P&B of the referee trying to bounce a ball on something resembling a beach. Can see why he wants another inspection before making a c**t of himself.

Aye but was it raining.

Strikes me as someone who won't be taking any prisoners when it comes to standing up for what he thinks is best for the club and its fans.

Quite a good interview. Don't imagine he's the type to take many prisoners by the sounds of him.

Should have said in a normal season. Note to self. Engage brain before mouth.

I meant other than that (should have been clearer)🙃

Don't think anyone's excited per se, more curious than anything and the fact that he has an interest in football and seems to be reasonably well off with good connections makes the proposal a bit more interesting than some random who knows nothing about the game. As always the devil's in the detail and I'll reserve judgement until that becomes clearer.

Can anyone remember an SPL League game ever being played behind closed doors. I certainly can't.

Busta over on P&B has given a full blown breakdown of him. Can't be arsed copying but well worth a read and explains where his interest in football comes from.

Aye it will be interesting to find out what his motives behind the offer are. Doesn't appear to have any sporting interests in his past that you can find online so maybe you're on the right track with a media angle. Would like a swatch at the contacts on his phone, Hollywood's elite no doubt.

There's a big difference between having cash flow problems and looking for inward investment. And there's nothing illegal in what McMahon did so chill oot and wait to see whats actually being offered.