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Stands up to loads of scrutiny. Them and their pals from other side get nearly and I mean nearly every week a dubious decision in their favour and their fan boys in media deflect it. If you think otherwise then up to you.

I get the frustrations from all our fans now and theres no doubt apathy is one of biggest downfalls. I myself have been at pretty much every game last 5 years but this year ive only been at 5 or 6 due to had other things on at start of season then realised that i cant be bothered as much as I was and not really missed it . Im going on sunday but really dont want to and thats down to in most part getting scudded from them that often with their fans lording it over us makes it not very enjoyable experience usually. This is also the case with fans of all other teams and I feel if the league was upped to 16 with after 30 games a top 8 and bottom 8 with just 1 game each where you knew at start of season who you would play and where in split that it would give fresh impetus to a lot of teams. After the split teams that finished 1-4 would have 4 home games and 5-8 would have 3 home games with the same in bottom 8. Team 1 would have their 4 home games against 2345 and away against 678. Team 2 home against 3456 and 781 away etc etc. I know it would make some teams having more away than home against certain teams but that happens the now with the split and if teams know at start of season what happens then it makes it relatively fair IMO with all games meaning something up to split to secure more home games after 2 relegated with 3rd bottom in a playoff with 3rd from championship also means freshness every season and also easier for teams to get back promoted so no lengthy spells in seaside leagues that decimates teams e.g Falkirk,dunfermline,raith,accies,airdrie etc . The amount of young scottish players not playing in our leagues is depressing and by expanding you would think they would get more of a chance and crowds would increase as not a lot of meaningless games and teams could build on good runs without playing one of them every 5 or so games Teams in Scotland cannot grow due to nature of our league and I know all the usual will come out like we need 4 old firms a season etc but something needs to change as supports everywhere will continue to deplete as more and more will go to them as is being seen in aberdeen, dundee,gorgie and leith where traditionally people would go local but there are busses from these areas going to glasgow every week now. After all that heres hoping sunday can give us some christmas cheer

I feel he will go with 2 strikers against livi. St mirren were better side v us in cup game with their 3421 and sk dealt with this by matching up against them in league and whilst result was not success the performance obviously gave him hope to continue with it against glasgow 2 where our extra man in midfield helped to give us our best performances against them in years. Lennon miller I feel was a wee bit slow on Saturday and I am certainly not criticising him as he is our great white hope and on the plastic pitch if its sticky he could get targeted by livi so I have a feeling he might get a wee rest Lot of talk about this and that required and some slagging of players and even manager which is what a forum is all about I suppose . I am certainly in glass half full camp and up to now 4th equal with bottom 3 still to play plus adeen for 1st run of fixtures I'll stick my neck out and predict we will be 3rd by end of 1st round of 11 games. Lots to be pleased about and this is our best team since turnbull arriyibi campbell etc

You seem to have developed an agenda against Bair who has been whether you like it or not an important part of a team that is functioning pretty well with room to improve. Lost 2 games 1-0 to a st mirren team who are unbeaten and to a team where we haven't won in league in 20 odd years and in both games all agree were fine performances . You suggest Wilkinson and Shaw now on what they have done in past and suggested ferrie previously for god knows what reason however in life the people who always look to the past are generally not as successful as those who prioritise the future. Your Bair rants are also starting to look a little bit personal like others who used to post on here slating every midfielder like ohara.spittall etc that kept cornelius out team as he was a local boy. Fact was and is they were better than him same as Bair is better than Ferrie. Bair imo is doing OK as part of our 3421 formation and I like others hope he makes you eat your words.

Exactly smiddy.

Spider there is no way its going to be a long haul. This team is not far away and the performance today was as good as I've seen at ibrox in years. Yes the strikers aren't van veen level but our midfield 4 is playing best football at fir park for a while. After today and also seen some celtic games this year those 2 are nowhere near the level they have been in last couple of seasons. Only downside I see for us is if we get more injuries to our midfield I think we'd be struggling as there's no one to come in. I know we are beat again but there are plenty positives in last 2 games against 2nd and 3rd in league.

Bair is playing as a target man rather than a striker as I read someone else point out and this sums him up I think. By only having him up top it allows our 4 in midfield to get a grip on the game and hence slattery paton and Spittal are all having gd games recently going forward whilst miller sits deeper and keeps things ticking over. Curtis main done similar role when turnbull arriyibi and hastie were tearing it up and he also got some stick on here. We will switch between I up which will help us dominate midfield and 2 up which will mean more direct route as season develops I feel on a horses for courses basis.

He's had a few appearances and done nothing and that's not me writing him off as he's only 17 I'm just stating the obvious. Kettlewell sees him every day and that is also reason he's not had a chance as likelihood is he doesn't do anything in training either. Bair is a far better option than ferrie at this time

Ferries has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he could do anything. Let's not get blinded because he's from our youth.

Sounding a bit desperate their David He is doing not bad imo and better than some have said he would do. Lot of variables in football that some don't see and never will see.

like most have commented he does not give of much confidence that he can score a lot of goals but I will reserve judgement until hes been in team a few weeks and see for myself. all about opinions and even last year lots on here were saying spittal was shite before kettlewell even though he had at that time outwith van veen highest goals and assists. Mcginn was getting slaughtered weekly again imo was our best defender. Some said he couldnt play centre half although he played rcb for hibs loads. before him ohara was shit and last year won player of year for st mirren as well as players player of year. I could go on but you see the point . He might just need an arm around him a couple of early goals and hes away which Im certainly hoping for as Obika and Wilkinson are also not giving off great vibes although Wilkinson goal on saturday showed what hes capable off. Ferrie is also nowhere near ready and I didnt understand when someone said hes impressed in lc group games as I certainly never saw anything to suggest that. I cant remember him even having a shot but hes only 17 so plenty of time there.

Big difference between kyogo.hatate abada et al and tierney David and comparing them is just silly. He is imo and others too lightweight because up to this point he has shown he can't do things that the aforementioned celtic players do so his deficiencies get highlighted more. Our most successful team of recent times that got to 2 cup finals was made up of 6ft battlers and whilst the football was grim it worked results wise. I now feel that we have to go this way as the quality of attacking players/wingers that we can afford are usually not good enough(van veen apart) to beat any of the defenders in the league on a 1 on 1 scenario. Kettlewell also feels this hence the 352 since he came in and not playing any so called more skilfull players.

Disagree jonny as apart from mcginn who got motm him slattery and Spittal were only others who looked semi competent. Our best moments were when those 4 at different times combined down right hand side . Definitely need a striker or the 2 there just now improve drastically which is a doubt going by last 3 games but still time. Hope the new midfielder is an upgrade on miller so we can feed him in slowly as today I felt he got a bit dominated which is to be expected I suppose. Every time we are in the league cup it throws up more questions than answers but least we look odds on to qualify and likely as top seeds which is in most part down to kettlewells professionalism I feel.

Think that's harsh on board and im sure contract was offered. If you look at any club in Scotland im sure we do as good or better than most in bringinging in funds for our youth so the slight on board is easy to make i dont believeits true..As has been said by others max's dad would have had huge impact on his decision and I feel he was never going to sign new deal. He is going to sturm graz maybe for seemingly 10k a week but if he hadn't played last 13 games of season for us he would likely still have been able to get a better contract than we would have offered at an epl 1 or 2 club. Dean Cornelius is away to Harrogate Town and I'm sure max johnston would have got similar as a minimum.

Reading the report on game seems lennon miller quite involved with shots tackles and hitting free kicks which I feel is quite telling. He certainly looks very accomplished and although only 16/17 is a big boy so here's hoping. Goal for Wilkinson another bonus.

He's better than any of our present strikers so I'm all for it as well if within our wage structure.

Definitely agree here. Dean was never going to get a game for preston who are a mid range championship team. Campbell who was far ahead of him aged 22 had to go at that time to mid range league 1 team. League 2 is best he could get based on his performances for us I'd imagine. Hope he does well the same as everyone else on here .

If you think what's happened is good and acceptable for good of our club then we will agree to differ. Your 2nd point I am 100% on board with as I said in previous post it's great to see young scottish boys kick on. 3rd point and yes loyalty in a sense cannot be put in front of betterment to yourself however in any walk of life there's different ways of doing things.

Disagree gazzy . Anyone in any industry looks after themselves 1st obviously but if max is as sure of himself as all the targeted media about himself then he could have signed a deal like turnbull did for example. I'll caveat that with saying I appreciate everyone's different and I don't know ins and outs. I will be delighted for him as a young ex well playinh scotsman if he goes on to do like allan campbell or lewis ferguson . As for all those that get put out at 17/18 I'm sure the club never promise any of them they will be next Ronaldo and I'm very aware of how it affects people and yes the club will be should be managing this I'd hope in a correct manner.

Maybe yes but max has more to answer I feel. Actually surprised he's not getting much stick for the situation considering what players previously got.

The more I read and hear on max johnston the more disappointed I am with the situation. He's been here since he was 12 we have obviously looked after him and at 19 he just fuks off after 17 games and some decent performances. Yes he's got to look after himself as has everyone but it looks like he does not care one bit for the club that has ultimately helped shape him. Same as hastie and to lesser extent cadden unfortunately.

See aberdeen have released a few. Dean Campbell and Connor mclennan I feel have something about them. Both lots of 1st team experience but neither have set Heather on fire anywhere but only 22 and 23 . Maybe kettlewell could work his magic on them and instill some confidence. Don't imagine they would be out our price range.

Definitely is although would not read again. Threats issued, name calling and a lot more lol No wonder p&b aficionados look down on this forum. Gave me a good laugh for 10 mins reading it anyway so keep it up those involved.

Bloody hell slow down a wee bit and some might not be as indigenous.

Totally correct. I also feel what's being underestimated about Wednesday is there was just encouragement generally from fans rather than what was happening at end of hammell and Alexander and other recent managers reigns. The new manager bounce is in part down to him but also the difference in attitude from fans maybe enables players to run a wee bit further and a wee bit faster as well as wanting the ball more. The cheering for even wee tackles on Wednesday no doubt gave them a boost and I hope it continues on Sunday. We have imo been robbed against them this season. Fir park was just one of those days but tynecastle we were cheated as Gordon should have been sent and hearts down to 9. That's not sour grapes just facts. Looking forward to Sunday although quite aware they have a really gd team .