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Cmon I think your being really harsh. His tackling is better than lamie and he is also more mobile. He will like all our players have bad games and he sliced the ball 3 times early doors today and his passing is certainly not as gd as lamie but overall only one winner for me A big problem I see developed by Alexander now is his loyalty. He picks same players if we dont get beat game before and he as much said that through week.I know that is a great trait for a manager to have but imo for instance without bevis or ojala we have no aerial threat at set pieces. Carroll was good today but I think ojala or bevis or both would improve team . He doesn't know his best 11 . We are a team that has a lot of experienced pros but not a lot of skilful players. All midfield are workhorses and that's it. Van veen and Roberts best of forwards but play for themselves as seen with free kicks today. We are missing watt big time. In saying all that still 4th and other than 2 glasgow teams we are more than a match for all but I'm now concerned with our you 6 aspirations due to lack of goals. Good atmosphere 1st half today but when they scored 2nd it deflated us and our fans leaving always gets me mad. There's 20 to go and your leaving. I don't get it as I'm sure their checking phone for score till end of game.

Agree with needing another striker. What about Charles Cook at ross county he's scored 9 this season and is better than shields. I think he would slot right in watts position left of front 3. Would county accept the money we got for watt plus salary we offered him? Got to be worth a shout but I like others on here have no idea of what he's on or what county would be looking for.

I'm with you on this also. We were quite dominant and their goalie had some gd saves. They got goal on breakaway that was defended terribly by carrol who didn't go wide to engage their attacker but waited till he ran into our box. Missed guile of watt no doubt but van veen tierney and slattery made difference when on. Donnelly didn't do much till near end but he had 3 shots at goal late on which hopefully shows his confidence returning. 1 well over 1 on target and then the winner. Him slattery and goss for me in midfield seems our best bet. Wee tierney looks like plays in behind strikers which is something we don't have . Aberdeen next will be really difficult but obviously winnable. Biggish crowd with gd atmosphere and a victory will really set our season up .

Lot of hate again for certain individuals but main problems in games like this are no creative players. Either in midfield or wingers. We are a team that plays for percentages getting the ball up the park and hoping our strikers can do something. Some we will win some will be like tonight. It cant be disputed we had more of ball but never really done much with it. When they went to 10 men it just needed us to be patient and pass it about using our extra man but we never did that and watching it I certainly couldn't tell they had 10 men. Very disappointing but still 4th and hopefully Saturday can cheer us up again but I'll admit I'm feart.

Definitely. I think the term professional was for performances like that. I'll agree with kmcalpin in that watt was missed today in his ability to take ball in tight areas abd attack defenders and win fouls but shields would have got another wee bit of confidence from his performance today and I hope he can kick on. Rest of season I feel is going to be really exciting for places 3 4 and 5 plus Scottish cup hopefully. Sine our scudding from rangers we now look like a team of experienced players who will be hard to beat. Us hearts hibs adeen and d utd all gd games. The rest are in relegation fight. Hope us fans are back for all the games. Alexander has definitely won me round after start of season and although we are not Brazil I can at least now see what hes trying to do plus its getting victorys. Merry Christmas and all the best for 2022 to everyone.

I'd have appere or niskanen Both look like potential and are both really busy plus their best position on left of front 3. We need someone as Robert's also be away. Mclennan at Aberdeen also I feel has got something. Who ever we get is a risk so here's hoping it works.

If say watt is on 2k a week roughly 20wks till end may is 40k. I'm sure we could write that off and not play him and make him train with youths away from 1st team. This could force utd hand into paying money for him the now so as not to get a player who's not played for 6 months when he goes. Yes hes been gd for us and this may sound selfish but as I've said previously utd are big rivals for a top 6 spot and Europe so it would put them in a position. Theres no way a player who's signing a contract to go and play for someone else in 6 months is fully switched on for his present team. We need to call his bluff.

Lol merry Christmas troops.

If true then fair enough but as hes at moment our main man and utd will be rivals for top 6 / euro spot I feel he needs to go now. What about a swap for their louis appere? Hes only 22 and looks promising any time I've saw him. Plays same position as watt and not yet a regular at utd. Just hope we get someone in that can replace him . Could be interesting window

Well he wont actually coz as he says its better to try it and see if it works than not. I personally cannot see any reason not to bring it forward as all the reasons not to do it are mibby this mibby that. The definite is no fans from 26 onwards and it is definite for 3 weeks from then. So if we move the break then have to start back with no fans all we have lost is trying to do it as Im sure we could extend season by week we have missed to fit in the 3 games. Another maybe is I am being too simplistic. Every team other than rangers and ross county think its a good idea as do fans of all clubs other than rangers from what i see on twitter. Make of that what you will

Was at the game and whilst we were good 1st half the 2nd half was different and no doubt the goal with last kick of half would have dented their confidence a bit. The only criticism I had of yesterday was we didnt thow on another striker i.e go 424 last 5 mins and just hammer balls up the park. We put on shields and roberts and shields had 2 attempts 1 header over bar and another where vickers sort of blocked his shot. So another striker in about there might have made difference, who knows. What I am liking right enough is slowly but surely Alexander I feel is trying to change mindset about going to places like yesterday and not feel inferior. The 1st half was best we have done against either of them for a few games and I just hope we can take it further. I know I am biased but every week there seems to be huge decisions that always go for them and yesterday was no different. The pressure the 2 glasgow teams fans put on referees via social media must have an influence as refs are only human and must read some of it. The ones that are deemed to favour 1 side of glasgow give some absolute belters of decisions in the favour of their supposed rivals so as trying not to look biased and maddens decision of stopping play other week for jotas hamstring against hearts was unbelievable and today I am reading all the celtic fans say yesterdays ref was a h*n. Its laughable. 1. Hart was he outside or not? well woolery was on line and he had to jump over him to punch it . possible red card if deemed to be stopping a goal scoring opportunity. 2. Foul for the freekick ? Slattery wasnt moving and looked like he was protecting ball. 3 Watt penalty. Ref is looking right at it from 5 yards away and vickers holds his leg up not lettig him pass. not only stick on penalty but vickers maybe sent off as no attempt to play ball? If any of this happened to them or their pals from other side of city it would be talked about for weeks but our media let it roll and its starting to really get to me now. Anyway after all that 3rd place is definitely there for the taking this year and I just hope next 4 games we really put a marker down before the break.

Well said weeyin. Some well fans are funny buggers right enough

Like all on here that was our best performance of the season. We played the 1st half all in their half of pitch and 2nd half we started same and then their sending off and goal from resulting free kick meant we wer home and hosed. We totally dominated them all over pitch today and I hope that gives boys huge confidence to really kick on. All players done great and the players that came in after Aberdeen game done especially well. Shields.woolery slattery and lamie. I hope that all the players are now realizing that if you dont do enough you will be out th team as if no injurys then I'm sure Alexander would have chosen the same team as last week. We have a lot of options now and this is only a good thing. Happy Saturdays.

My thought as well MJC. Totally pissed off with yesterday and long for the days when we knew we would give them a game. Im going to make some excuses here and I will likely get slagged off but the players have to believe they can beat them which I dont think is the case and tony watt chance at 1-0 was massive and also when watt cut inside v arfield a 1-0 he could have went down and gave ref a decision to make. Rangers are more streetwise also as in 2nd half we were attacking down right and bassey was injured which meant we had extra numbers but he stayed down and walsh stopped the game, he got back up after physio on and running about no bother. Small things but that is what we needed after they scored their 1st we needed a bit of gamesmanship from someone. Odonnell and mcginley getting a lot of stick on here but all game tavernier and bassey had the whole side they were on to theirselves, why was our forward players one on each side not told to mark them if they attacked. Mcginley and goss in 1st half were dealing with tavernier aribo and arfield every attack and 3 v 2 is only going to be one winner. Our forwards do not track their opposing fullbacks and that imo is big issue and why we get overrun in midfield. SOD and mcginley are also really lacking in confidence that was shown in a few breakaways where they mucked up simple passes. 2015 seems a lifetime ago and with the players we have and tactics used its hard to see any light at end of tunnel. Only pass marks yesterday were bevis,sol.ohara and i also thought shields done ok in the sense he was busy but that should be a given and not something you get praise for. I also understand people wanting rid of Alexander because the football is dire and I dont see him adjusting the team for certain games. Everyone knows rangers full backs are their main creative force but we let them get on with it with no one tracking them. Good managers see the main threat in opposition and plan something to stop it. I can maybe be judged as happy clapper as I try to always see the positive but its hard last night and this morning. Anyway back to work and Aberdeen at weekend and heres hoping we see a big reaction.

Mic that is not the rules though that if theres any contact in box it's a penalty. This season it has been that there needs to be enough contact to impede player. Sinclair was ridiculous decision as was rangers one on Wednesday as although yes Aberdeen player looked like he was holding shirt it wasnt enough to go down as he went down as if pushed. The 2 Glasgow teams get the decisions not imo through blatant cheating but because the referees are humans and get swayed by in most cases by big crowd claiming for it plus the reputation of their players and managers and also the media. Referees will talk to all the aforementioned and steven gerrard or callum McGregor for example moaning about something to them will be remembered by them more than say grimmy having a go at them. They do get more of the big decisions awarded and that's facts not paranoia or easy cop out. Everyone on here can I'd imagine remember loads of decisions against us when playing either of them. Anyway onto Sunday and theres always a chance. COYW

A lot of whinging and moaning here and also last night in east stand. The 1st goal big moans at grimmy for not passing right but there was more room on left and so it proved. Moaning at odonnell for not passing forward when he kept the ball but not a lot of cheers for him when he was main instigator in pass to watt to move into box for penalty and also last 5 mins he ran full length of park nearly twice to try and get something . Some of our fans calling our players useless at game is pure pish patter imo and can only dent their confidence. Yes I am not convinced with Alexanders football either but We need to always support the team. I cannot understand doing something that will certainly have a negative effect on team during the match. Alexander has been successful earlier in season defending leads by bringing on defenders but last night brought on ohara for 4 in midfield then they get a goal and whole momentum changes. Maybe bringing carroll on at that point for 352 as done later would have worked as has done before. We are 5th equal in league with won some games we were lucky in and lost and drew some that we could have got more from and after the debacle of league cup where I did fear for us in league this season as we were abysmal 1st round of games can be viewed as being ok and certainly better than most of us thought in August. Van veen and roberts not getting on last night i think was telling unless they cant play 2 in a week and keeping them for sunday but i think alexander is maybe a bit let down buy their lack of application. Shields looks busy enough but other than run by power and chip into box his hold up play and other stuff was wee bit lacking in quality and can only be expected as he has took a big jump in quality.

That today sums up the league. Nothing between any of teams. Big difference was their keeper who is huge and comes and dominates the box so any wee dink into the box he claims whereas kelly who I like but the reason he is at us is coz he is too wee to be top class although he is up there with best in league at shotstopping. We had loads of balls into box today got a goal ruled out for a foul and a penalty for one where they only had a few and scored from 2. Both their goals a big keeper would have claimed the ball I feel and the crosser cant put it as close to goal coz he knows that will happen. Midfield today I felt were all in wrong positions. Why not goss on left grimy on right and slattery in middle. Grimmy isn't gd enough on ball to be in middle and other 2 were having to cut back all time. Ohara in middle with slattery on right and goss on left going forward I feel is worth a chance. Wooley had a couple of gd moves in 1st half. watt was busy but van veen poor although subs on up front hardly touched the ball when on. Some of our fans at game being really negative just before we equalised which yes I get their frustrated but it does wind me up and demoralised players I'd imagine. As I said nothing in game look at stats and their very even . I'm starting to think 352 might be better same as others so that if kelly cant come for cross balls then we need another defender in there to help out . Decisions Decisions.

I reckon the hype that would be generated amongst fans would be greater than cup finals. Yes it could get messy if we were to get pumped in all games but if we were to play games v say a spurs or ac milan or somebody similar it would be amazing. Watching football is all about experiences and a boring shit game for neutrals but us winning with an OG last minute v big gun would be legendary for us all.

Wasnt talking shite or slagging off or have ever worn kilt cat boots etc or in tartan army. I'll leave it at my 1st point. That is majority of football fans love seeing their national team do well . Your obviously the uber well fan and well done you but it's you that talks load of shite. I love both personally and have nothing in common with the so called tartan army other than being Scottish and wanting a team that I am associated with from heritage doing well.

"absolute moronic patter" very funny but my point is if your a football fan and scottish and dont enjoy scotland playing in euros or world cups then in my view you are not really interested in football its maybe just something you do. Do you enjoy watching euros or world cups without us in it? Maybe just me but world cup is pinnacle of football.

Fukn hell you sound like one of the religious bigots . If your a football fan and dont enjoy watching your country succeed and win then I'd suggest your not a football fan. Dont try and explain as it does not wash. Scotland doing well brings a sense of joy to all us motherwell football fans.

Totally . offside is easy decision as well as foul on watt was blatant penalty. I'd love alexander to call it out.

Yes but getting the ball from our defence and providing passes to forwards looks like what he is gd at. Donnelly last week was poor and slattery looks to have something about him. I feel we should have too much for what looks to be a relegation team in dundee and I hope tomorrow proves it. Really looking forward to 1st away day since?? Hearts? Cant remember now been so long. Here's hoping same score and performance as last one up there which was a good night.

Totally agree with o'Neill. When he was going off where we were sitting in east stand next to cooper all around us and beyond started clapping and drowned out minority of boos from morons. He was great player for us and went on to do well for himself and always spoke highly of us. Back to game and I enjoyed it other than result. They always looked dangerous but I felt we had big chances too that just never happened. I feel a lot better and more optimistic than I did last week anyway. Why was Newell or gogig I think not booked for grabbing our players around waist and stopping break always? Ref was poor imo and Carroll incident in 1st half was 50 50. The penalty now I've seen it was right decision as if hand not there it's on target. Also canny believe only 3500 well fans as burrows said through week very limited in jh and limited in cooper I feel the club missed out a wee bit here as no doubt there were a lot of well fans not able to get a ticket. Good atmosphere all around for park today in and out ground and here's hoping it continues but results will decide that of course

On paper looks to be good and exciting signing. He would certainly have to be good on the ball to be in any england underage squad as well as being at Southampton academy. Here's hoping he doesn't think it's going to be easy up here as he will soon find out it isn't. These are type of signings I have always felt we should be going for (released from epl or even our big 2) at a gd age however I dont know the financial situation to do this and I always thought they must be out our range. With o'connor in from Leicester and now slattery its 2 who have been around top players day in day out. Some experience now to go alongside them such as the Finnish boy mentioned would seem to be good business. On the pitch will tell it's own story as ever.