Goggles & Flippers

Pikeybhoi's update from Magaluf confirmed my suspicions of their inbred support

vip box now has a 2nd stream thats working. The two sycophants think Las has to be watched for dodgy challenges .......

Already have it in place, when I click the link it brings up a thing to download their player, buggered if I'm installing that on my computer

I'm using p2p4u and can't get rid of a bloody advert, any other suggestions?

Well Ainsworth is starting as he was used in the pre-match press conference.

You're the worst poster along with trafficlight

I put down a team to compete in midfield and win the ball and ultimately upset them, it was compiled partly with how I imagine McCall with think with a hint of my opinion. I thought I explained my reasons, however I go into more detail. Faddy as he's on the cusp of getting his form back and can handle the occasion and Lawson to help cover the defence as despite their perceived lethargy from Barca, Celtic still pose a major threat going forward. The thinking behind it was to soak up and deal with the early pressure and allow those goal threats you identified to have impact when they are introduced from the bench, fresh and champing at the bit. I accept there is no pace to speak of but the first half for me isn't about breaks and counter attacking. I'd love to sneak a goal but I can't help but feel scoring after 15 minutes is like baiting a wounded animal. Last 10 minutes though warms my cockles. I also considered that McCall is conservative and opts for damage limitation than inflicting damage.

Anyone think he would have stayed if the reorganisation a few months back wouldn't have happened?

You say that as if its not in their DNA to do so. They have convinced themselves they are the world's oppressed and victims to rival the Palestinian's. However by the letter of the law, Brown was right to walk, for me it was 3/4 of the way to a red. But as there is no such award I was happy the ned got a red mainly for his petulant stupidity. If they get a penalty I'd say there's a fair chance it could be a fair decision seeing some of clumsy challenges McManus has made on occasion so far. Assured and composed one minute, Lorenzo Amoruso then next. Still a great signing for us but I fear he will beat Crags OG/penalty conceded record. Most intimidating game so far and imperative we compete in midfield. For that reason I'd opt to start with Faddy, games like this are like water off a ducks back. I'd bench ZFA and look to bring him or our nippy little winger on for Lasley if the engine goes and move Carswell more central and finally go for Arnier to replace Faddy if/when he's gubbed (injuries withstanding): Hollis Ramsden McManus Hutchison Hammell Carswell Lasley Lawson Vigurs McFadden Sutton

Only teams I think could cause us problems at present are Aberdeen and ICT. If we're firing all cylinders (which hasn't been the case yet this season), I fear nobody especially as the semi's move to a neutral venue. I just hope the players take a lot from that 3-1 game. Best chance of silverwear in quite a few years. If Killie and St Mirren and some mob 2 divisions below us can win it, its nigh time we managed it.

Billy Dodds on telly: "Now Celtic's out I see Inverness doing it this year" Well Billy I doff my cap to your punditry, motivated purely by the current league table. Inspired!

Jeez, I'm guessing everyone contributing to this forum grew up in West Central Scotland? Are we oblivious to some basic facts of the environment we live in? Also, the argument of posting pictures of what goes on in other countries is pointless and adds nothing to the argument. We live in Scotland and the culture and environment here suggests that the authorities don't think that behaviour is conducive to public order and safety. Whither this view is correct is up to you as an individual. Yes we can't light flares at football matches, smoke in pubs or drink in public, however we have free healthcare, can walk the streets relatively safely at night and there is low to no level of corruption. Everywhere on the planet has its pro's and con's associated with living there. Another thing that serves no purpose is comparing us with other teams within our own country. I'm referring to the likes of the treatment of Celtic and the Green Brigade opposed to us. The Police establish what they see as easy wins. With the size of our support they can make progress/achieve targets, due to the size of the Celtic support would require a significant number of bodies on the ground to enforce the same law and no doubt result in a bigger furore. Granted its neither fair or equal but its what it is. For example, basic human nature is to go for the easiest option, despite high moral intentions, the caveman part of our brains suggests that in the case of a 50-50 a referee will err on the side of what will give the least hassle. He will encounter and interact a significant number of OF fans in the week(s) after he's officiated in one of their games and a couple of fans of other teams if at all. Consequently they will have that in the back of their head, buried deep down and will have a bearing despite his attempts to show impartial integrity. Put yourself in this scenario, you see a group of five guys loitering around your car opposed to one, you'd probably tell the one "fannybaws, do one!", with the former, you have to stop and think opposed to acting on impulse. Same thing with a large group or a small one. Like it or not, smokebombs carry a panic button status among the authorities. Personally I'm not a fan and don't think they add anything, I'd rather those buying them would chip in for another drum, I'm sure the club would too if we get hit with a fine. It simple, if the smokebombs didn't go off then the escalation during the second half wouldn't have happened. Any over zealous stewards there may have tried to find something but it wouldn't have carried the same weight. Police Scotland have to be asked about why someone there did the same as Chick and sensationalised the event. Well, as we live in a blame culture now where people constantly try to cover their arse, its evident that the police presence there decided that action had to be taken as to ignore it could have came back on them. It's evident that someone thought the stewards weren't capable of dealing with it. As a taxpayer who has recently been the victim of crime I'd rather they were out harassing the bad guys than dealing with this niff-naff and trivia.

Gannon's like Marmite, we get it. Close the thread FFS.

On the money Ya Bezzer, a lot of dreamy nostalgic eyes looking back. For all the decent players he brought in, he also managed to upset quite a few existing decent players with his behaviour.

While nobody should revel in the apparent demise of anyone's career, you can't help but feel that he was a relatively big architect of that through his behaviour. Also, while I'm grateful to him for some of the players he brought to Motherwell, I'm afraid I don't buy the tag he's earned among a good swathe of our fan base. I'm sure Stevie Wonder or some of the more hot headed/blinkered on here if exposed to the 3rd and 4th tier of the English game over a decent period of time (opposed to 30 seconds exposure after midnight on a Saturday) would identify a few decent players would could do a turn for us. Unfortunately what sticks for me is the divisions in the squad, moral plummeting, tactics/decisions in the last month of his reign plus him actively pursuing other jobs at every opportunity as he felt we were beneath him but served a purpose. I'm just happy he can now shout abuse at old bangers regularly without upsetting them.

First win against this mob in 3.5 years at the Ark, interesting stat that raised an eyebrow when heard it. Pleased for Sutton, Arnier and Hollis, that last 10 minutes should hopefully do his confidence no harm. Crags looking smug as he's certain McManus will take his OG record.

To a degree, but I prefer Terry's ethos when it comes to adding players at ICT opposed to McCall's with us.

Almost forgot, my bad! All this chat of "pacey wingers" had my eyes burning. In the previous 4 years Humphrey has been injured for a fair bit, if he started he played 60 minutes by and large and 30 if he came off the bench (that's when he was in favour, because there were times where he didn't get a look in). Did teams give him extra cover, I think initially yes, but over time with his delivery that dissipated. He replaced Jim O'Brien who could never be called rapid. Other players to have came in to fill the wing role in the past few years have included Michael McGlinchy, Steve Jones and Omar, again not players who have had much of an impact or you would class as rapid. The only one who you would argue would be Ojamaa but he had a tendency to cut inside and head for goal than the by-line with a whippy cross if he was played deeper than Higdon's partner. To suggest that the wing position is our missing link, the key to our success doesn't tie in for me. The team as it stands is an assured and experienced mob who on paper should be able to pass the ball from box to box effectively. What's been missing is steel in midfield (high hopes after seeing Carswell on Saturday), eradicating silly mistakes plus upping the understanding, expectation and anticipation between the players.

How long before a happy clapping family member joins SOL and bigs Lionel up or makes excuses for him at every opportunity regardless of performance. Just out of interest, anyone seen that Dezzie guy on here since Humph moved to PNE?

Now that's interesting, anyone on here have a soft sport for any other teams in the SPFL? Can't say I do

When you step of the train or bus in Motherwell I imagine it will be akin to what the native Indians thought when Columbus moored off their shore. The only gold we have is in the Nobel's Amusements (can be found in Brandon Parade). During your time here I suspect you'll be wishing you opted to select Monaco over us in FIFA. However welcome to the party.

Anyone suggesting Higginbottom's representative didn't give us a heads up before he went to Firhill? No .... good, because if he was worth anything he would have been on the phone to McCall telling him the lie of the land, its obvious McCall didn't see merit in his signing so let him go. Any money both the player and his agent would have seen us as better for his exposure (Europe, top 6 consistently, etc.) than Thistle. Also, while Lawless was OK on Saturday, he hardly shone in the way that some on here have made out letting him go was the biggest error since letting an Italian be the captain of a cruise ship. Have faith in the cagey ginger one, he will deliver

Clarification please anyone: BBC Website - Last paragraph "However, both he (McHattie) and Wilson are free to play against Raith Rovers in Tuesday's League Cup tie at Stark's Park as their offences only apply to league games" Not the same deal for Boyd?

On the money that point, it was the one thing I noticed when Higdon entered the team 2 years back, he wasn't as clever with the refs as Sutton. However our downfall then as now is we don't have anyone who threatens the goal from 20 yards plus. With the height we have this season in Hutch, McManus and Kerr I'd be surprised if floaty efforts to the six yard box weren't commonplace. Sorry to say it but I'd rather have an aged Ronald Kooman than Stevie at LB at present. I think that Scotland call up upset his mojo.

Good point well made. Too many ball watchers on here with 5 second goldfish memories.