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Pepper last won the day on September 10 2024

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  1. It was going quite well until Billy Dodds continued to peddle he myth that Kettlewell resigned because of abuse aimed at his family. Derek Ferguson also seems to think it must have been abuse from well fans located in the main stand, with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Neither statement challenged. At least the message that whatever it was must have been from a minority of fans (as absolutely no one knows what the abuse actually entailed) is finally being addressed.
  2. I agree with the sentiment of your posts, even if not all of the points you make, Apologies if I have played the man and not the ball in an earlier reply. There is definitely a discussion to be had regarding what is considered to be an acceptable level of abuse in football, not only abuse directed at managers and players from fans, but from managers and players towards officials, and that extends across all levels of the game. In all honesty, I'm a bit bewildered by the whole sorry episode.
  3. None of this is new though. You'd be forgiven for thinking we were the first fans in history to give their manager stick. Just so we are clear, and it goes without saying, any fan who was personally abusing Kettlewell is an arsehole. Ii don't get the double standards comment, these are not the same things.
  4. The general consensus seems to be that he received the same or lesser levels of abuse than others have in the past. I don't think there is any merit in that debate anyway as there are obviously things we will never know. Thee has got to be more to this for to merit the sort of reaction we are seeing, almost entirely across he board. I suspect we may never find out.
  5. I could have put my mortgage on you giving me your resume... Yes I think that post was absolutely fine. The vast majority of the support are quite right to be offended, as they have done absolutely nothing wrong. The way the broader support is being portrayed, regardless of what abuse was actually directed at Kettlewell, is disgraceful. The club statement, society statement, sky interviews and the latest twitter video from the club are a PR disaster. I have no problem with anyone offering Kettkewell support and questioning a victims lived experience is just not tolerated these days, but there must have been a better way to do it that this. How to alienate your fans in 3 easy steps.
  6. I assume you are new to both football and the internet?
  7. Halliday's hand ball was, going by the current rules, a stone waller.
  8. Pepper

    Bois Boycott

    I don't seem to recall accusing you of being a tyrant. But it's convenient you don't have access to the records for the thread I'm on about. It stuck out to me as I enquired about why it was closed on another thread and was told he had left so we were not to discuss him, despite there being a former players thread where similar former employees are dicussed at length and he'd only just left. It was obvious why it was really locked and I wasn't the only one to comment. So it seems it's not only the Bois who have trouble admitting when they are wrong.
  9. Pepper

    Bois Boycott

    The Robinson thread is the most obvious one that springs to mind. Your pal was getting it tight so you decided that was that, discussion over, which was baffling given it was practicality the only thing posters wanted to discuss at the time and the forum was otherwise dead. Around the time of the P & B mass exodus if I remember correctly. Back on topic - to be clear - I think it would be an absolute travesty if the Bois group were to be lost to the Club, wider fans, and the community. Far from sneering, I have lot of respect for what they have achieved, but, sometimes blunt criticism is deserved and is actually very necessary. They seem to have lost all sense of self policing that was evident in the past and have crossed the line on one too many occasions. The first thing is admitting when that happens. The lack of self awareness, and the "we are the victim" narrative gives me the boak. As much as us "outsiders" might be criticised for not being in the know, there are clearly some who are so close that they can't, or simply will not, see the wood for the trees. Support the team and don't act like wee dicks, it's not that difficult.
  10. Pepper

    Bois Boycott

    You have form for closing threads on topics that you no longer deemed fit for discussion even when there was an appetite on the forum to continue the conversation. Why? Because the viewpoints bejng expressed didn't match your own. I can see this going the same way.
  11. Pepper

    Bois Boycott

    David and The Riddler talking nonsense again. At least we're still allowed to debate this topic, that's a change for you David when the debate isn't going the way you would like. I've given the Bois as a group plenty of praise in the past and acknowledged all of the good things they do. In fact I've yet to see one person who has offered criticism that hasn't. However, the narrative that the group is trying to push that they are some sort of hard done by innocents is simply not true.
  12. Pepper

    Bois Boycott

    I thought football fans didn't want to be treated differently to everyone else? Is that not the main reason The Offensive Behaviour at Football Act was repealed? I love the idea that they are now claiming they weren't boycotting the Hearts game only their usual section. Hilarious. Noone is going to take anything they say seriously until they at least acknowledge the have as a group made mistakes and behaved poorly. You can do all the food drive an bucket collection you want but people aren't daft, more than enough have seen first hand their behaviour to judge them accordingly. Well Bhois - they did that one to themselves!
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