Spiderpig

Thats normal procedure for games against the uglies, if they were losing or needing a goal it would be more than 5.

The turkeys dont vote for christmas, the clubs inherrent self interests will kick in so any plan that involves less income from games especially against the uglies will never be agreed.

So far for me in the emails and statements from the club on this issue the standout thread is finance., Did not want to reduce seats in the POD, maximising seat availability for the Euro games, etc. This is what you would expect if the existing seats were compliant etc but not when the alleged solution swapped out better seats for cheap, shoddy not fit for purpose ones, thats putting profit ahead of fan comfort and safety. The reduction in the pod prices back in May/June now makes sense, to nullify the more money for poorer seats argument, however that objective failed with the choice of seats we got. We all know the constraints of the pod, the UEFA compliance etc, etc but the choice of new seats was poor, was any proper testing done, i think not. So moving forward im sure that all that people want is for the club to man up and admit they got it wrong, set out a plan / timescale to resolve the issue and then get it done. But burying their heads and hoping there are no accidents resulting in negligence claims against the club is not the way to proceed. As for the WS, im not a member but their silence on the issue speaks volumes of how they see their role in interacting with the club, ie attend the meetings but stay quiet, and dont rock the boat, they should be ashamed. The POD ST renewal figures next May / June should be interesting.

Aye i noticed that as well, which concerns me if hes not actually been released. Maybe its part of the deal or probably more likely that the club and the players agents etc are still w orking out the details.

Ill give you white and Blyth, they were brutal but not Bowman and Main, Stamas league goals mainly penalties. Main and especially Ryan elbows Bowman put themselves about, knew where the goals were and generally read the game well. Stama was never where he should have been, his reading of the game was shocking always reacting and never anticipating so he was never able to make the most of any potential chances. He arrived and was full of promise, scored a few pens but never kicked on, after his 1st child was born he was not interested always injured and generally looked like he never wanted to be in the shire. He was never the standard we needed and never would be, sent back to Sydney on loan and even they did not want him. So releasing him was the only sensible option.

Lets be honest he is brutal and is never going to get any game time going forward, nobody is going to make a bid for him, so it makes sense to cut your losses and agree a deal re his contract to release him and free up a wage, it should have been done at the end of last season.

How do you know they were ST holders, they pay their money the same as you and as such are entitled to their own opinions, if its different from yours, so what. Calling somebody willie Wonka is disgraceful now, aye ok then. Disgraceful behaviour is setting off pyros and going on the pitch, when repeatedly being told not to, so wind your neck in.

If his contract expired May 26, and hes still at the club for us to loan out he must have signed an extension. Surely the player needs to agree to the loan, so he must have said yes, if hes really not happy about it then he needs to move on as he is not going to get regular game time at Fir park.

Yes, " penalty to Rangers"

All anybody needs to know is that the premiership is set up and constituted to suit and pander to the needs of the ugly sisters, the other 10 teams dont matter. Change only happens if they both want it, or teams like Aberdeen vote with them.

My fault i thought JGR was from New Zealand 🤦‍♂️

You can smell the shite from a long way off with that one.

Confidence and ability go hand in hand you wont have one without the other, so maybe Vogt is not as good as we hoped he would be. Ive not seen anything from him so far in albeit limited game time to convince me. Otherwise, he never seems to read the game well and be where the action is,. I hope he does come good but at the moment he has the look of a certain Australian team mate about him, and for the sake of clarity its not Priestman or Jonny K

Correct Dave, a lot of valid reasons why the seats were replaced, which nobody has any issues with, but no admittance that the "only option available" while looking good on paper, just meeting the criteria, etc has in reallity been a mistake. They say they would lose around 500 seats in the POD, so lost revenue was obviously a concern for the club but the seats are not fit for purpose, a potential saftey hazzard, so fan saftey should take priority over finances. There was also no indication in the email that the club is looking to resolve the issue, it gave the distinct impression that " we picked the only solution we had, we now know it was an error, but the seats are here to stay" Im not a WS member but for me they have not stepped up to address this issue, which as majority shareholders they should be doing.

It was against Kilmarnock who are brutal, so not a good indicator of Dundee untds abilities, but i agree with you, a home win for me as well.