Spiderpig

Aye he was a bit pish today, contributed feck all, surprised SK left him on the park so long tbh.

He's doubtful for ghe game according to SK

As I said in my post some players are the best fit for a position, and at Motherwell that's Kelly. Oxborough will get a game if Kelly is injured, or in a league cup group match, friendly etc the international set up should be no different but the so called "fringe players" never get a sniff with Clarke.

Whit, "missing the real point" and here was me thinking that the point of including a player in a squad or having him on the bench was that you think he is good enough to play for the team at some point. As I've said earlier Clarke constantly fills his squads with players he has no intention of playing and sticks by a core of players irrespective of how good or crap they are. Players don't develop or get better warming a bench, yes you will have a player that's the best fit for a position but the friendly matches are the time to assess the other players and Kelly, or Clark are not even getting that.

Sorry but for me that's pish, Clarke is too loyal to players who should have been binned long ago, or playing guys like Gunn who wanted feck all to do with Scotland and only came grovelling back when it was obvious he was getting nowhere near the England team. Now we have Shankland scoring for fun this season getting dropped after 1 game, so it's not good man management but just bad coaching.

How? If he was getting game time and international experience against better players etc then yes that would benefit him and the club. But being picked for squad after squad with no game time is beneficial to nobody. How can Clarke judge if a player is fit and ready for international football without Actually giving him a game and seeing how they cope, especially in games that don't matter.

Another meaningless game for Scotland tonight and Liam Kelly still not getting any game time, why does that fud Clarke bother picking him if he's no Intention of playing him.

Nah no draws we'll win we owe them a pumping.

I don't think he will be a bit player, Hearts are signing a proven goal scorer in the premiership a midfielder with a goal tally most strikers would love over a few seasons. For me he'll be an integral part of their team.

Aye it also means you have 1 less topic to talk pish about, everyone's a winner

That's the only way things will change, if the member clubs start challenging and calling out the incompetence shown by some of these VAR decisions. We always have a laugh at the ugly sisters when they "seek clarification " from the authorities but in all honesty more clubs should do the same.

Spot on Dave, the money On offer from clubs like Hearts, plus the prospect of European football etc is a no brainer for a player like Spittal, he'll probably double his salary without any need to uproot his family and move house.

Were collum and McLean on VAR duty, that is a shambles.

More clubs need to call out this shite, that's the only way things will get changed. And up the ante as appropriate if they get the usual non response from the SFA, its blatant Incompetence and ignorance of the rules of the game from alleged class 1 referees.

Nobody invests £30 million over 5 years or a one off £10 million without the guarantee of a significant return, I suspect it will be when the investors get bored or want their cash back that the true nature of these deals will become evident.

Valakari always gets mentioned and allegedly interviewed for every managers job we have irrespective of whether he wants the job or not.

If VAR was used for its original intended purpose, ie clear and obvious errors in the build up to goals, the technology was the best available and the VAR officials were fully trained and competent then it could be a very useful aid to referees etc. This along with full disclosure after the game on the reasons for decisions made, referees being allowed to explain the reasoning etc, would improve the game and fan experience. However what we got in Scotland was a hastily cobbled together shambles of suspect technology, inconsistent application of the laws of the game, poorly trained officials and a culture of secrecy with no explanations or censure for blatantly bad decisions. So until the SFA admits it made a James Hunt of it and starts again to ensure its implemented and operated as it should be it will continue to ruin the game and fan experience, this of course assumes the SFA will take effective action but as we all know that won't happen, they have more important things to organise, ie the expenses paid freebies to Germany in the Summer for all the committee members.

The basic principle of speculation is that you need cash in the 1st place to speculate with, which we don't have so hence the need to live with our means. So unless a billionaire oil sheik or a group of investors give the club shed loads of cash to spend as we want, with no guarantee of a return it won't happen, the odd bucket collection before a game won't cut it. So living within our means in the "shit market " as you put it is where we are, and we've done OK over the last 38 seasons.

Realistically then where do you see the clubs ambition to be at each season, league champions, win a cup, top 4 finish, European football every year, given the budget under which we operate? As for the rookies / journeymen you mention whether that be players or managers, the harsh reality is that's the market we are in, people need to realise that the money we offer for salaries, player budgets, transfer fees etc etc is never going to attract any big name managers or players.

A change for the better perhaps, i doubt it, it will be one at the top out, another from within will be promoted and it will be business as usual. They will appear to tinker with VAR, but it will still be the same shite technology and the same shitey operators implementing it. The whole refereeing set-up including VAR needs ripped out and started again with proper accountability and scrutiny in place.

We know you dont like / rate him but you mention SK as "the budget option" implying we could have afforded better, who did you have in mind ?

100% agree, I've just watched the sportscene coverage and both Var decisions were a feckin disgrace, and cost us the chance of at least a point yesterday. We all have a laugh at the ugly sisters when the moan about bad var calls, but all the clubs should be doing the same and calling g this nonsense out as its verging on incompetence now by the alleged officials who get away with shite like we saw yesterday with no fear of censure.

The whole set up is not fit for purpose, bargin basement technology operated by officials of questionable ability and overseen by a culture of secrecy and no liability or acknowledgement of errors. The clubs have the power to get changes made and make the process more transparent and accountable but I won't be holding my breath waiting for that to happen.

No professional football manager is going to take up a subs place on the bench with a player who is not fit to play as you never know how the game will go and what cover might be needed. So SK knew Ebiye was fit to play, hence his inclusion in the squad, but bringing on two academy players, both of whom are nowhere near ready for the 1st team instead of him when we were chasing the game was an error.

Well said Dave, brining on two very inexperienced Academy players when we were chasing the game was a nonsense, both of them hardly touched the ball and as you say neither of them are ready for 1st team football. If he was on the bench Ebiye must be fit enough for 20 or 30 mins, so I can't understand why he was not brought on to add something different up front. In all not a good day re tactics, team formation, or team selection for SK and we let a poor Aberdeen side off the hook.