Spiderpig

£4 million for O'Donnell would be a great result.

The charge is a legally binding agreement which means the club board are unable to sell the ground until the loan is repayed in full, basically its a secured loan. The charge does not automatically fall the club board would need to apply to have it removed so the lawyers need to get involved. It's when you see details like that you begin to realise that the deal on offer is all about eliminating the WS and securing full control over all the club assets for Barmack, or am I being cynical?

If the 9 ws members vote then you would like to think that they would all be for or against the proposal whatever it is but if not then a simple majority should be sufficient to determine the official WS position which would then determine how the WS reps on the club board vote. Nothing here is rocket science it's simple democracy, it's time the WS board acted like major shareholders and reminded the Club board who's in charge.

The individual WS board members Dave should be voting according to the wishes of the members. Obviously not on every single trivial item, but for a major issue like this all 9 WS board members should be voting according to the wishes of the members and not their own personal views. You have to question whether they were keen to get on the WS board for a genuine belief in fan ownership or for their own self aggrandisement, I think the 3 who resigned were the latter.

The current WS and club boards could learn a lot from him re keeping WS members and every other fan informed of what's going on at the club, instead of the radio silence we're used to.

Bring back the 1927-28 kit, that's a belter a proper footie top, oh and white shorts not black.

OK people enough with the attempts at Bird humour now please. No wonder Barmack is posting on P&B and not here.

That's the main problem here the WS are the majority shareholders they should be involved in every major decision the club takes. Yes the WS representatives on the club board need to vote but that should be in accordance with the members views, especially for a major decision such as this. Up till now the club board have basically ignored the WS, taking the money but ignoring them for everything else. And it's all because the WS was set up with no professional people on board and run by volunteers who seem to have done what they were told to by the club board ie leave running the club to us and don't Interfere.

There is the basis for a complete mini series in that one statement.

The WS are the majority shareholders, owners, controlling interest, etc so nothing major should happen at The club without them knowing about it and sanctioning it, ie additional investment proposals, so if the WS board in line with the memberships wishes don't fancy it then it should go no further. And the club board should be told go and try again However as the WS was never set up with any serious Intent in terms of getting professional people onboard. It's been left to the volunteers to deal with the club board who want out ASAP and clearly have no time for the WS. The WS has been nothing more than a piggy bank to the club since it was set up with members contributing significant sums of cash with no real benefits in return, it's fan ownership in name only. So as the current club board are desperate to get out , now maybe the time for the WS to step up, get their act together restructure and get some professional people in place to run the club going forward for real and effective fan ownership.

That's claret and yellow, sorry luminous yellow

I'm not disagreeing with you, sometimes it takes some unorthodox moves to make an investment work long term. But the low offer and the effective removal of the WS in the plan on offer makes it a Mon starter for me.

It was yesr on year investment in the context of the investment plan currently being discussed ie 3 to 6 years etc.

So do i, I'm not a member but only a few months ago the WS were struggling to sort out current contact details for it's membership, so producing a feasible and appropriate investment plan to take the club forward even by engaging outside professionals and agencies may be beyond their capability. Time will tell.

Dave do you really think that the current WS board are capable of creating and implementing an alternative and credible plan to provide additional year on year investment, raffles and bucket collections etc won't cut it.

Get the Sash from this year's away kit on it and the blue uglies will buy it 😁, all joking aside surely someone is taking the piss here

Aye time will tell but Mike Ashley was one of the lads, a great guy by all accounts sitting with the fans etc, till he was found out as a ruthless bar steward. These guys Barmack included are a different league in ruthlessness and business dealing compared to the likes of McMahon, Dickie etc, that's why they are multi millionaires.

Who knows if he's a good or bad guy, he's a multi millionaire and you don't become one of those without being ruthless in business. So if he gets control he'll make sure he gets his investment back with interest and won't lose any sleep if that's at the expense of the club and it's fans.

Finally some real new players to discuss, I hope he's the first of a few more. No doubt the " he's shite. Wrong age, not premiership standard etc, etc "posts will be incoming soon.

As someone who has never seen the WS as being fit for purpose since it was proposed, I have to say they seem to be getting shafted on this proposal. It's blatantly obvious that Mcmahon and his cronies want out and I get the impression they don't give a feck what happens after that. Barmack wants full control of the club without the WS to annoy him that's his return on the investment and if that happens, in a few years he'll get bored and move his cash elsewhere then we are really screwed. I have my doubts as to whether the WS can really stop this going through or if the enthusiastic amateurs on the WS board have the nous, knowhow and willingness to come up with an alternative. Additional investment is required but not this proposal, so I would hope it goes no further.

Who came up with this idea that the WS actually run the club, from a non members view it seems they just give the club cash when asked, without question and basically do as they are told, this alleged deal seems like business as usual for them

Sentimental pish, Clarke was supposed to be preparing a squad for a major tournament, not giving game time to a player who is done and did not deserve it just because " he is a good guy and was a great player". If he was to inspire the other 3 then bring him in as a a goal keeping coach, adviser or whatever but not as a potential starter.

Any half decent coach would never have selected a 41 Yr old keeper irrespective of how he was at his prime who's only played 7 games in over 2 years for a major tournament in the 1st place, Clarke is feckin hopeless.

The only thing on X I follow or contribute to is Motherwell FC, plus the posts are not annoying, well not as annoying as your occasional patronising posts, but they are irrelevant to the majority of fans. All we ask for is if the media team are putting content out there, make it relevant.

100% agree, when a player leaves Motherwell I don't care where they are now or how well or badly their career has went. The random media posts look like someone creating content just for the sake of it, nobody gives a shit what happened years ago. We want up to date info on how the club is doing on field and off, the alleged new investment, new player signings etc etc.