Spiderpig

Never heard as much shite in all my life, you really do seem to have issues with the police. For me people are assumed to be innocent until proved guilty, and as for police tactics that's for them to decide that's what the general public expect when we get them to keep us safe. If any criminality has taken place then those responsible deserve all they get, so are we to assume that all the Bois are wee angels and innocent and victims of your perceived police incompetence, bias or whatever conspiracy you subscribe to? Or do you agree that the few responsible should be taken to account for any alleged incidents, as I am sure the majority would agree with.

Allright now you've got off yor chest, I know feck all about alleged police actions, Dawn raids etc but I assume the police have genuine reasons / evidence to warrant such actions and behaviour, does anyone seriously think they just do stuff like that as they are bored? If any members the block E fans are up to any criminality then they should be prepared to accept the consequences,as I have said before it's a very fine line between enthusiastic support for your team and taking it too far, and from the various forum members reporting what they have seen it does seem that on occasions the support has gone too far, much has been said about self policing which is a great idea, but only if it works and is seen to be working but if not the the various authorities need to get involved. I'm sure the vast majority of Well fans support the enthusiasm and effort the block E guys put in to enhance the Fir park experience, so it would be a shame if a minority within them are determined to take it too far and cause issues but if they are action in whatever form it takes may be required

All fair points but the issue I have is that we have a lot of homegrown talent all playing 1st team football, capped at U21 and youth levels etc that never seem to be given the chance to step up to the full international team on a regular basis under successive Scotland managers. Turnbull, Campbell, Gilmour, Nisbet, Patterson, and in years gone by, Coyne, McGeady, McCarthy etc. These are the players that the Scotland team should be built with, not bringing in constant pseudo Scots who are no better than what we already have available. It might change for the better one day but not with coaches like Clarke in charge for me the current structure is not fit for purpose.

Well said, but be careful what you wish for, my seat in the POD is allegedly padded, but comfort was obviously not in the design brief for those seats when made over 70 years ago.

Feels Scottish.... aye ok, he's on record stating how shit it is being part of the international squads and being away with Scotland, it does not matter if your dad, Grandad etc are Scots, the boy owes everything he has in football to England, youth teams semi pro, and pro contracts etc and if he had as much as a sniff of an England call up he would be nowhere near us, so I'm not having any of that " I feel Scottish " shite. How many genuine home grown players has Scotland lost over the years because they were not picked in place of Random English players whose Grannies once had shortbread at Gretna Green. Why are players like Alan Campbell, Turnbull, Nisbet to name a few getting over looked for guys like, Che Adams, Jacob Brown, lyndon Dykes, and the latest guy from Blackburn Dominic Hyam its feckin nonsense.

With a compliant media and football authorities giving them an easy time, that's the one and only mention the incident will get, from a club employee.

Another pretend Scotsman who is only playing for us as he was never going to be good enough to be called up by England, and as it turns out he's not even good enough for us.

Went for Max Johnston, he's developing into a good player I hope we can hold on to him for another season or two, special mention for KVV

Can you imagine the seethe and "letters of clarification" Heading for Hampden if an ugly sisters player was cited for deliberate cheating, the SFA are shit scared of them? But as those two get an easy ride media wise in Scotland its never going to happen, to the detriment of the other 40 clubs in the SPFL.

Spot on , Clarke is feckin hopeless and his bosses at the SFA are just as bad for letting that situation arise, irrespective of whether Gordon was injured or not we would still have the same scenario. But Clarke gets an easy ride from the Media and the SFA, so nothing ever gets done.

I agree re Cornelius he was very poor today, all over the place, ball watching all game, very rarely picked a runner up. As for Slattery his stupid tackle cost us the 1st goal and he had a poor game but tbf he's been a better looking player under SK, so I would not be too harsh on him.

VAR was shocking today like you I thought our 1st and their 3rd were both off, the VAR lines do not look to be straight.

So who invades the pitch from that section in the ground then, sets flares off, winds up the stewards, etc, etc if not the "bois"? We all watch it from other parts of Fir Park or away grounds and any "Stupid behaviour" as you put it always seems to emanate from them, is there a special Troll squad within block E giving the others a bad name?

Wrong formation and tactics from the 1st minute, sitting back letting teams like Rangers come on to you, with no press only ever ends one way in defeat. The rangers defence is average at best but we never went for them after we scored and ultimately got what we deserved from the game nothing. Defensively we were brutal today, too many ball watchers not marking up. But all that said anything today would have been a big bonus, we have more important games coming up to save the season

It was never a foul Dave absolutely shocking decision to give a 2nd yellow, Cantwell should have been booked for simulation aka cheating.

Aw well , I see the ghost of Stevie Hammell has returned straight from our feckin kick off,

Aye a great protest....we'll go in stand at the back for 15 mins then go to our seats that will really get our point across whatever the feck it was anyway,

OK then, what's your next prediction sering as this one is fucked.

There is a very fine line between actively supporting your club by enhancing the fan experience, the drums, banners, etc and becoming whinging annoying arseholes complaining about how bad they are treated, setting off flares and the like. Nobody has any issues with the drums, the banners, the great support the team gets from those guys, and fair play to them for the effort they put into it, but as has been mentioned before, recently they seem determined to want to brand themselves as some sort of "Motherwell Ultras" with the obvious comparison to those with the"we are always the victims agenda" why does anybody think that setting off and throwing flares in a crowd, both illegal and dangerous and then complaining about heavy hand tactics by the police and club officials to prevent them doing so is an acceptable position? For me if you are determined to put that amount of effort into supporting your team do it in a positive way and forget all of the other shite, it will be a better experience for all fans and the club in general.

100% this, the man is a fud,Scotland will achieve nothing with him in charge, every squad he names is full of players he has no intention of playing.

The boy is English end of, but the problem is he is not good enough and will never get picked for the full England team so he switched to Scotland and that fud Steve Clarke will end up playing him to seal the deal.

Sometimes a player realises that he's not going to get another big money contract / move as their contracts run down so why not move to us, might be a coaching job on offer longer term.

On the bright side a 41% record of positive results over the years is fairly decent 😁

Backwards......Experience in European competition, a clutch of winners medals, a decent goal return, learning his trade from better players around him, etc he's a better player now than when he left us, and only 23 years old, for me his career is doing OK so far.

Aye ok, David, you'll get thousands of pounds a week more than you get at Fir park for the next 3 or 4 years, better bonuses and facilities, etc, this deal will see you financially secure....aye bad advice right enough