dennyc

If the Israeli Government say no way the game can be played in Israel, then it’s up to Hapoel to find a neutral venue. No doubt with UEFA guidance. If they fail to do that, then the tie is awarded to us. On the other hand, if the Israeli Government give it the go ahead, and our Government says we cannot travel to Israel, then we forfeit. That’s per a clarifying statement made by UEFA a few weeks ago regarding potential CoVid cancellations. Quite clear cut about who is regarded as defaulting if a game is not played. I suggest Airdrie as a neutral option. More likely Cyprus.

Agree with you regards the pitch. It was shocking and I actually think our players coped with it as best they could. But Coleraine had several excellent chances to score other than the penalties. Two in particular showed up our central defence ..... the free header just before we scored and the volley over the bar from a free kick second half. Most teams would have scored those but thankfully we got off the hook. I don't think the pitch or the referee should be used to gloss over just how poor we were and that there are serious issues that need addressed. Let's pay heed to the warnings we have had rather than dismiss them because of factors outwith our control. Just thankful we got through.

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The main thing holding us back is that some folk cannot be trusted to act reasonably. That and the fact that some footballers think guidance does not apply to them, bubble or no bubble

Exactly this. And many of the projected round three seeds are away from home in round two so there might well be a few shocks. But we have to get through our tie first before it would mean anything to us. And by no means are we guaranteed to win in N Ireland. But hope is a great pick me up.

The draw for the third round assumes all the second round seeds progress and on that basis we will be unseeded tomorrow as too many higher ranked teams will be in the draw. To continue our run in the Anglo Irish cup all that is required is for us to draw Shamrock Rovers on the basis they beat AC Milan first up. Seriously though, I assume the groupings for the draw will be revealed later today. And there is a good chance some of the projected seeds will fall in the second round providing some lucky teams a better chance of further success. But I doubt Shamrock Rovers will be one of them.

And what did you hear regards Sell on Fee. I was told “Celtic don’t do sell ons unless we are the sellers”. Hopefully not true but concerning.

From the Celtic end. Hopefully not accurate. £2.75m plus £250 k in add ons. ....eventually. Two players coming our way on loan. Ewan Henderson and Scott Robertson. Both midfielders apparently . I’ve never heard of them. And no mention of a sell on fee.

I actually think it was correct to disallow the goal because of where Seedorf was positioned. Otherwise football is a farce. But nobody (other than Hanlon funnily enough) has homed in on the fact that a defender DELIBERATELY played the ball. Have a look at the Law for offside which was amended a few years ago. A defender DELIBERATELY playing at the ball can result in a player in an offside position being deemed onside. So if Seedorf had touched the ball there is a strong case that it should have stood. Most referees ignore that ruling but it does exist. Just ask Man City who went out of the Champions League because of it three years ago. Not saying it is sensible but it is a factor and it clouds the issue. They have mucked about with the offside rule so much that it is now almost unworkable. I think that is why Hanlon went to great lengths to emphasise that he only played at the ball because Seedorf was behind him. But really, if we lost a goal in those circumstances every Motherwell fan would be going nuts.

To play right back.

Streaming but no sound. Watching players warming up.

Can someone post when the stream starts so folk know if they should be seeing something other than the countdown timer.

Maybe a permanent deal to be done if Kipre sold soon or in January and we can fund it from our cut of that. Would not surprise me if that was the case.

Game was cancelled according to Rangers. Believe it or not, a delay in CoVid results meant it was called off.

A Rangers pal based in Wales watched all their away games last season using a VPN as an "Overseas " subscriber to Rangers TV , including at the grounds you mention. Only their Europa League games were not shown as BT had the rights. So they might block Motherwell TV but they allow access to the OF. Maybe it's about the cost and those clubs charge too much to justify Motherwell TV showing it.

OF fans overseas have Rangers and Celtic TV. So I would think that is a limited market for Livi. And if the game is live on Sky in the UK then PPV will not be allowed here. So no meaningful market anywhere for Livi involving Celtic or Rangers. Don't know about Celtic, but Rangers fans overseas can pay Rangers TV £7.99 to watch individual games if they don't take out a full subscription. And here as well if they use a VPN..... or £9,99 for a Now Sports day pass. No way will they pay £20. As per usual it is the fans of us diddy clubs that are being fleeced. I hope fans of all clubs refuse to pay the £20.

I would think all OF away games will be on Sky. That's usually what happens anyway. So no PPV will be allowed. Livi are just ripping off fans of teams such as Motherwell. Same as they have done every game since being promoted. Given no concessions, seems wrong that many folk would pay more to watch the game online than they did when attending last year.

Season Ticket holders also get to see 19 home games at Fir Park when fans allowed in . So you could end up with 38 games. 19 Streamed and 19 Live next season. As you say it is not a bad deal.

I meant Livi are charging £20 for their home games. We are charging £12 for ours. Livi cashing in as usual.

PPV Streaming now allowed on a game to game basis. Told we are charging £12 and Livi £20. some things never change. League Matches home and away fans.

I thought each club was responsible for their own tests. So the Lab used is down to Motherwell. .....or St Mirren in that positive/negative nonsense. Some Clubs have even bought their own test equipment rather than relying on outside firms. . I’m not so sure Doncaster is guilty this time.

Very much so as far as Motherwell are concerned. All our results were back...if later than expected...prior to later kick off. So delaying the game was a wise move. Sensible given no spectators hanging around waiting. Unlike Hibs and County who postponed a game because no results received in time, Rangers are accused of pushing ahead with a game against Dundee Utd without test results for many players having been received. Totally against agreed procedures. Perhaps not a bad thing that procedures are being reinforced at this time rather than have cancellations/delays when the season kicks off for real. Downside is that tests have been upped to twice per week which has cost implications. It's up to each Club to arrange their own testing and to ensure results are received in time.

Has anybody heard anything from the Club or the Provider about the streaming issues last night? Would have thought they might have at least tried to reassure those that had issues. I know I’m not the only one who was able to sign in as expected, but was then disconnected as soon as the stream went live. Thereafter the sign in link was dead. Eventually after about 20 minutes of E-mailing back and forth I was sent a “for my use only” one off link to Premier Sports which worked fine. The issue was certainly at their end as I regularly stream sport without issue and today I can sign in on the official link as was the case up to kick off. . Hopefully the problem has been identified and future viewing will be fine. Otherwise this is going to prove a right frustration.

Oops wrong thread

Yep. Crashed just before 8pm. Not good