Yassin

There's people bumping this thread and baying for blood after literally every defeat though. If all this was just an immediate reaction to last night's debacle it'd be understandable but it's the same people constantly losing their shit whenever we drop points.

There's a lot in our fanbase that just lose any objectivity or rationality when it comes to Mark McGhee, and use everything as a stick to beat him with. Some of it is just complete double standards- he's been widely accused of not caring enough about the club, yet when he's clearly hurting after defeats- like the Ibrox interview, or last night's antics- he's apparently an embarrassment to the club and we hear all the "I won't be back" shite. Or he's accused of being simultaneously too arrogant and too defeatist at the same time. It's a weird season, where there's 4/5 teams far superior to the rest, and if Mark McGhee can continue to beat the teams around us and finish lower midtable then I'm perfectly happy with that from a season that's been more about stability and bringing through and developing young players than anything else.

To be fair outwith that top 4 we have won more than we've lost.

Obviously capitulations like this are horrendous,no argument there, but in the grand scheme of things we're still roughly where we would hope to be in the league, and no worse than the rest of the bottom 7. As it stands, I think McGhee will keep us up and I don't think it's worth risking that on the back of bad defeats to three of the League's best teams. Maybe in the summer there could be a discussion but right now it would be knee jerk, despite the justified anger tonight.

Forgive me for not being mental, but is it not more likely that "deserve some good news after the way you've been treated" is just referring to his bad luck with injuries?

I'd take him in our midfield.

It appears Jacob Blyth scores when he wants.

Utterly mental National League teams are professional sides, some with 3k+ crowds. Otherwise, why bother with Marvin Johnson or Louis Moult when we could just pick up somebody of similar quality at Pollock or Auchinleck Talbot?

This Moult guy is an absolute wage thief-no use anywhere but upfront. Bring back Hateley and Josh Law imo.

I thought Cadden roasted Sowah but his final ball was uncharacteristically poor. Went for Jules because he didn't seem out of his depth in his first start at this level and was better than anyone else we've played at left back this season.

Luke Watt's went on loan to East Fife.

Not really sure what the point of this exercise was but I found it interesting regardless. Ojamaa with Motherwell- 85 apps, 17 goals Ojamaa without Motherwell- 127 apps, 9 goals Not somebody I would be relying on as a goalscorer if I was Dundee, though I can see him getting a decent amount of assists as a foil for Haber. Could go either way really.

Seen a few people mention Ojaama but it doesn't really make much sense to me. I love the guy but he's always been more of a winger than an out and out striker imo. In an ideal world it'd be great to have him back but with Frear,Ainsworth and Cadden all in the squad I don't really see where he fits in.

I liked Laing at right back, would maybe have stuck with him for a while longer rather than Law. Tait's nailed down that starting spot now though and we have McMillan as a a back up as well so it's pretty clear Laing is surplus to requirements. Shame,I still think he has the potential to be a decent player but time is running out for him to realise it.

I have a feeling St Johnstone will start to decline in the next few seasons. If you look at who they have out of contract,it's about 10 or 11 first team players that are free to leave this summer. ST. JOHNSTONE (13) - Aaron Comrie, Liam Craig, Brian Easton, Richard Foster, Liam Gordon, George Hunter, Steven MacLean, Alan Mannus, Chris Millar, Tam Scobbie, Joe Shaughnessy, Danny Swanson, David Wotherspoon Lot of those players will be hard to replace if they leave, possibly an even tougher job than McCall had in 2013 after Law,Higdon etc left. They might not fall quite as far as we did, but I wouldn't be surprised if they finish bottom six next year.

I thought we actually started really well for the first half hour or so. We were playing most of the game in their half, pressuring them into mistakes and could have had a few early goals. Really seemed like the perfect reaction to last weeks game from both the players and crowd. Unfortunately we struggled to adapt to McDonald's sending off and slipped back into the typical Old Firm performance of 9 men behind the ball unable to get out of our own half. I do think McGhee got this one wrong, and Ainsworth would have been a better option than McMillan, Frear or Bowman at any point in the game, but it's a bit mental to be calling for McGhee's head after this game. He's largely met expectations this season, and despite how much it hurts, Rangers are a better team than us and were always expected to win.

Just scored his second there.

Ross Forbes just scored a screamer in the Ayr Morton game.

No idea if it's true or not, but were there not rumours Falkirk couldn't build a 4th stand because it was within the Grangemouth blast zone or something along those lines?

I count 9 for Sutton.

It's hard to say this without seeming ridiculously harsh after a really good performance from him today, and you can never really criticise a goalie in a one on one, but Samson literally dives away from the ball for the winner and gives Miller the entire near side of the goal to aim for. Again, the result wasn't Samson's fault at all but it's just another incredibly frustrating thing about today.

Don't really see how McGhee got his tactics wrong tbh. We were obviously set up to contain them in the first half, but we brought the game to them for most of the second. Not McGhee's fault the players bottled it in the last 10.

Maybe a bit heart of over head but I love Fir Park, hopefully we never leave ,unless it becomes a financial necessity.

Our website isn't very clear, will the cup game be all ticket? I've not been to Ibrox in about 5 years but I assume it's the same as Celtic Park and you've got to buy tickets from Motherwell?

Did Reynolds not vote our entire starting XI for Team of the Season a few years ago?