FirParkCornerExile

Imagine you are 23 years old 3000 miles from home and you get a new job and everyone connected to the new company goes on social media to say you are shite....give guy a break for fuck sake. SK has said he needs developed and at 23 years old he sees something he can develop. Let's also be realistic how difficult would it be to shine / perform in the St Johnstone team of the last two years.

If you read their social media threads St Mirren fans are supremely confident of disposing of us. Id love to know what their arrogance is based on.

https://www.sportspayouts.com/football/scottish-premiership-clubs-wage-bills/ Not exactly the picture the club always paints. We are as competitive as nearly half the league in wages. To listen to the club you'd think we paid Championship levels.

Well I'd think Mugabi and Lammies days are numbered maybe even moving on, so why not.

Yes and no , the next progression from the 90s would be to win the league and that would never happen. So from that high plateau we had to regress when we became a fan owned club with a piss poor support. However when you measure how much we have regressed compared to everyone outside the OF , Aberdeen and Hearts in the 21st century our regression has been remarkably tame. Yes Hearts have been relegated in that time and Aberdeen bottom six however their overall average over the period has been pretty steady. The biggest problem has been in the last 5 years where we have taken in plenty in transfer money but have wasted alot of money on seriously piss poor managerial appointments. However because of that success in the transfer market these costly decisions have not been as fatal as they could have been. Frustrating that the money wasn't used to strengthen us on the field of play but to offset poor appointments.

I don't buy this "how poor our budget is compared to others". Our wages bill has been greater than Kilmarnock, Ross County , St Mirren and Livi. All of us very rarely spend a transfer fee so we must be competing with them on that side of things. In January we were told there was no money to change much..... we then signed 9 players. We plead the same poverty line all the time , every year and ever transfer window and I always think they over egg it. Sure we lost a million quid last year but the other clubs lost money too. We have also taken in more than those other teams in transfer fees over the last 5 or 6 seasons by some measure. I'm not inferring we are awash with cash and dont need to keep an eye on the budget but frankly some of the stuff is over the top.

I didn't think we did much wrong today. We beat what was in front of us quite comfortably. I've seen us play a hell of a lot worse.

Not for me , did nothing that would make me think he'd improve us. Again another one who'd have stared more games if he'd performed. Their arse doesn't warm the subs bench because they are indispensable.

To all these people saying Tierney wasnt given a chance. He had over 300 days in training to convince 3 managers that he should be in the first team.

That's what I like about Kettlewell. He obviously isn't as brutal in this language as the fans but it clearly obvious he's seeing the same things we are.

If its not the OF the BBC are not really interested.

Is Efford injured or is he leaving

Get out of jail there. How often do we need to see this shite from Mugabi and Lamie

Not one league reconstruction has ever changed the product on the park. You hear the same pish every time, allows teams to play youngsters, takes away fear factor... It's all shite it's just rearranging the chairs on the Titanic. It doesn't increase crowds one bit. Fans are no more enticed by watching their playing Ayr Utd twice as opposed to St Mirren 3 times.

I wouldn't, any team with greater resources than us increases our percentage chances of struggling and even worse going down. I always like a few teams who cant out spend / resource us in the league. It improves our chances of staying where we are. That's why I was hoping Queens Park would come up , Dundee are an infinitely bigger threat to where we end up than Queens Park would have been.

I was wrong its Dundee Utd hes appears to be going to.

It will be St Mirrens big signing Robinson has been punting all weekend

McGuire is not the answer in any position. A Championship level player at best

Exactly all this talk about freeing up a wage is fanciful. He's been an expensive error.

He only played a couple of games but backed up everything the fans of his previously club said. A headless chicken. When you consider the apparent lengths we went to to get him you wonder who recommend that piss poor deal.

This is what depresses me about modern Football the club's have been very good at making the financial responsibility the responsibility of the fans. I didn't start supporting Motherwell to spend more time fretting about potential finances of transfer deals. I'm not getting at you our you message it just reflects how clubs have managed to make it the fans concern. I pay for for season ticket merchandise and other match day expenses. I like 1000s of other pay plenty. These really are not things that should animate us but they do.

Exactly.

We get this story every transfer window. They said that in January window and just about every transfer window in the last 10 years. Yet we still signed 9 players in January. It's like a broken record that I now pay little attention to.

and we may have dodged a bullet, a mates son worked for him and said he was the biggest clueless prick you could ever imagine.

Was Mandron offered one ?