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Likewise I don't give a flying fuck how ex players get on. They don't play for us so I'm totally disinterested.

what more can be said... player doesnt want to stay , player signs pre contract , player will be leaving. There is discussing and flogging a dead horse.

Michael talks alot of sense at times. However we need to move on and forget TW he's nailed his colours to the mast and it ain't our mast. I have no interest in him whatsoever any more, ex players don't interest me in the slightest never have. I know all the arguments about him seeing it out with us til the summer or not. I frankly don't care, I'm bored of it now. We will survive his loss and we have to look forward to OUR not HIS January window and get guys in who strengthen our current solid position not be thinking about someone who has no interest in our club. He is becoming a distraction.

That what so called journalism is, presenting a narrative , not necessarily true, but to suit an agenda. Hence the clusterfuck this country is currently in.

Couldn't agree more.

So does that mean he was unhappy at Motherwell? Unhappiest badge Kisser I've ever seen.

I make an exception for Turnbull without wishing his team great success at Celtic I bear him no I'll will whatsoever. He went out his way by signing a contract when he knew he could have left for nothing. He made sure the club got a hefty wedge and for that he should never be castigated by any Motherwell fan. He did right by us without doubt.

He will do fine but he wont make Dundee Utd achieve any more than us so the question is £750,000 contract for TW worth the money.

Dont wish anyone well playing against us or chasing the same prizes as us. Same with Gallagher and Cadden. Hope they are forever shite whilst playing with clubs in the same league.,

There is also the very likely chance no one else made him an offer.

If TW is getting in the region of three quarters of million pounds over 3 years - if some social media is to be believed. You have to ask yourself would/should Motherwell pay that for the outside chance of 2 games in Europe because that's all we or they are likely to achieve. For me the answer is no. If UTD have money to burn to achieve exactly the same that's up to them but it's not value for money. I know people will say European money can be big and a possible cup win both of which would be no means certain for either Dundee UTD or Motherwell with or without Tony Watt . I find Dundee Utds splash the cash approach difficult to fathom considering their debt and that fans are regularly plugging financial gaps in their budget. Mid table mediocrity or even 4th is not a reason to break the budget for Tony Watt , well not for me anyway.

As we all could but theyd need to be very very lucky again as we all would. TW isn't turning that Dundee UTD team into cup winners.

Do as well is relative. No matter how he does or doesnt do Dundee UTD will win exactly the same as us which will be bugger all and will have cost them alot more. Even if they get the european place they will be out on their are after 2 games. So is it worth the investment over a 3 year deal??

but what is the definition of fail

Is Lamie injured or is his pending Pre Contract agreement putting him out of GA's team selections too.

Exactly move him out in January, we don't need his distraction. We must concentrate on players who do want to play for us and win a place in the squad. I'm reasonably confident his departure will be negated by the current squad and some January arrivals. He's history and joins the Gallagher, Hastie , Cadden, Tait and Wishart list of cunts who left leaving a bad taste in the mouth and suitably boo'ed every time he plays against us. Hope he's as successful with UTD as Gallagher is proving with Aberdeen. I'd really piss myself if UTD ended up in the play offs or even worse. Id have Tom Boyd on the cunts list but he left in an appropriate manner but has become a huge cunt since.

i dont think we played very well , we worked our socks off , scored two good goals but the general standard was poor and not as good as recent games but to win in such circumstances is excellent.

and lets be honest what are we really sucking up? at seasons end , even with TW, UTD will win exactly the same as us...... Fuck all. The only difference they will have paid out alot more money than us to win fuck all. The futility of Scottish Football in a nutshell.

Scotsman reporting Dundee Utd prepared to pay a 6 figure fee to take TW to Tannadice in January.

There is an argument for that however the fact its another club who will be competing with us to possibly get 4th. I wouldn't potentially strengthen their team this season. Although the track record of guys leaving us an actually being successful is mixed at best. There are a few exceptions but most go on to achieve nothing , earn more yeah but never quoted again in terms of bettering themselves as players. Murphy , Gallagher, Craig , Delameux, Cadden, Tait, Main to name a few all ended up with or went straight to up diddy SPFL clubs and frankly none have never made me worried about facing them.

I wouldnt overtly punish him for exercising his rights I just think we should immediately seek replacements and give them a starting place before him. If it doesnt work by all means then start him.

it was extremely unhelpful. However our first team selections after the break should give Shields an extended run as well as Ross Tierney. Watt should only come into first team 1st choice thinking if we look like we are struggling. However initially someone whose signed for another SPL club should be down the pecking order. We got over the loss of Gallacher with little or no impact and TW will be replaceable , just remains to be seen if he replaceable in the short or medium term.

we can if we get decent replacements in the January window and the only way we will know is to play them.

I know the arguments for playing him but afraid I'd be planning for the future. He can sit on the subs bench until his ultimate move. We need to get used to playing without him and hopefully GA has something to cover for his loss in the January window. As I've always said "Beware the Badge Kissers" it means fuck all.

The paper talk doesn't seem remotely vague , it states quite clearly he's signed a 3 year deal with UTD so I don't think its just paper talk. Paper talk is generally where they are taking a punt on a story and printing speculation. Rarely if ever have I seen the papers report someone has signed for a club and it isn't true. Plenty times they say Player X will sign and it doesnt happen.. There is no dubiety or speculation in the story.