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Aye but had we not had Gordon Marshall who absolutely sold the Jerseys that day the result could have been different or at least alot closer. We brought it back to 2-1 within 13 mins and had them back peddling then that big Diddy sold the Jerseys.

The two worst Old Firm sides we'd ever face in a final....

One things for sure this next 10 days has the potential to be the best we've had in years or the absolute worst. No one can say its boring.

Yeah but I've already seen comments on social media like "get this tippy happy stuff to fuck, we just need to win" or "Id rather watch shite and win" granted it's only a few voices but I can see it now if we end up bottom of the league and out the cup. Fans are fickle that's why the next 3 games are extremely important. Embed the feel good factor keep the impressive uptick in attendances that's what three good results can do.

Lose to Livingston you wait and see some of the fan reaction.

For first time this season I go into a game feeling a bit pessimistic. I have been Confident in the other games. I just feel we are in a wee bit of a spiral right now. It would just be too easy to put ourselves right back on track over the next 3 games and if one thing I've learned supporting Motherwell we rarely take the straightforward route. I think as usual we will dominate large parts of the game but still gift goals. I'm going 2-0 to Livingston. It just so Motherwell to lose to the two promoted teams in a week. I just feel its going to get worse before it gets better from here. Fingers crossed it just post weekend blues.

I just cant understand why they dont stick to the clear and obvious error. Saturdays ruled out goal was knit picking trying to find and error. That is not clear and obvious that is blatantly searching for something to cancel a goal.

Don't worry lose to Livingston and the heat directed at the manager will increase quite considerably. For some we are a baw hair away from wanting the long ball shite back, as if that made us much better in the last few seasons. Basic individual errors are costing us dearly hopefully these will lessen because in every game right now we are making some absolute howlers. We are not being beaten or losing a lead because the opposition are outplaying us. (Falkirk 2nd half excluded) Our season could look fantastic in 4 weeks time or it could look desperate thats the fine line we are running right now.

Fair point.

and is it that poor ? we are 3 points off 3rd and at half time yesterday we were 3rd. No one outwith Celtic and Hearts have won more than 2 games.

If 1 win in 8 is relegation form everyone from Hibs in 3rd down are in similar form. No one from Hibs (3rd)down to Livingston (12th) have won more than two games.

Now that I've calmed down after yesterday , still greatly pissed off to have lost a game we really should have had won by half time. Defensively in the second half we were a shambles. I don't buy into the McGlynn tactical genius angle. He did what every team should try and do they stepped up their press. However we let them and sat off them. We let them hem us in at our own 18 yard box for much of the second half. Instead our midfield should have been exploiting the space in the midfield Dundee's press was creating but we didn't. Our final ball and decision making was very poor in the second half. Utterly woeful defending gave them the lift they needed and once they scored we panicked and I don't think any Motherwell fan couldn't see the winner coming for Dundee. Our self destruct button has been off the scale this season. However key influences were the loss of Longello Koutrombis looking like he'd never seen a football Hendry blowing out his arse after 50 mins Set pieces and crosses into the area absolutely pathetic, no pace on the ball and accuracy even worse. Said has all the attributes, except one, his final ball 9 times out of 10 is piss poor but he is still an asset. Substitutions changed nothing it was like for like, although SOD was an improvement on Koutrombis We are poor up front and that with a self destruct defence / keeper are killing us. With all that said we were unlucky that AP didn't score in the second half as bad as we were. Much is also being made about the fact we've only won one game out of 8 and its a fair point. However if we look at the league table no one from Hibs down to Livingston have won more than 2 games. Quite an incredible stat. Its little wonder a very average Hearts team look like potential League winners cos they can score goals. Very frustrating but for self destruction our play would merit us being where Hearts are. We need to start kicking on soon or we could get dragged down to a position our play doesn't merit and that would be a shame. By time the Liv gam comes Ill be back to normal but if we lose that the manager will sadly start to feel the heat. Anyway ramble over.....

Totally agree, that's why I said in my pre game predictions that this was an important game because I knew some fans are just waiting to declare "get this fancy football to fuck" and resort to the mind numbing shite of the last few years and sadly the defeat has brought some of that very reaction I was worried about.

How could he not be we beat ourselves again.

100% correct . I keep hearing people saying that the opposition tumbled to our style. I don't buy that. Sure 2nd half Falkirk tried to press us further up the park but we stopped doing what we've been good at in the 1st half. The entire team fell behind the ball and started defending on the edge of our own 18 yard box. If we had continued to play our passing game and not sat back we would have got space in the midfield, couple that to the fact our final ball is truly shocking. This was no McGlynn masterclass we made life easy for them and in the end Falkirk got what they deserved. Losing Longello was a blow and the other substitutions didn't actually improve us. So frustrating.

7495, a great turn out but that second half will see us return to our normal dreadful 4000/4500 if we don't beat Livingston. So desperately disappointing. Got what we deserved today.

In those days it was a role reversal . In the mad confused world of the Old Firm bigotry many Celtic fans supported the Republic of Ireland over Scotland and you never saw the hatred some Rangers fans now have for Scotland.

100% correct , Rangers along with the Tories killed a full scale rebuild, remember it like it was yesterday. Rangers lobbied the Tory Govt who just needed and excuse to back out as Rangers wanted Ibrox to be the home of Scotland games.

Correct , this game is huge for us. We will probably get a decent crowd but I just get the feeling some of our support are just ready to jump and start bitching if we don't get a win and Id hate to see the style we've adopted being undermined by fans turning against it because we don't win tomorrow. For me we probably need 7 points from our next 3 games to keep the all the fans on the same page.

Our cup record against St Mirren is abysmal but frankly I wouldn't bet against us these days. There is not one team that has played us off the park and but for OUR own ability to shoot ourselves in the foot we could quite easily be top of the league right now and no one could argue against it based on our general standard of play. I happy for us to face anyone right now, I have no fear facing anyone in the league or the Cup. Do I think we have better players than St Mirren ? Yes I do and all things being equal the team with better players should win. However we all know that's not always the way. St Mirren are big strong and physical and they never give up. Does that mean we will beat St Mirren , no it doesn't , but there is absolutely no reason why we can't.

I see tickets are now being sold in section F4 at Hampden that wasn't previously available. Promising sign.

I've heard that from a St Mirren fan too and a number of their fans on social media confirmed the same.

According to the Map we've all but sold out I3, I4, I5, I6 & J1 in the South Stand And D3, D4, D5, F1, F2, & F3 not that far away . If each section holds say an average of 800 that would point to 8800. I actually thought that with those sections nearly sold out we would have been more than 6000 but bow to those who know Hampden better. If we sell North of 8000 I don't think that's too bad , all things considered, but at the end of the day it is what it is.

I have attached the two screen shots of seats available about 30 mins ago. The available seats are in blue. All the sections showing are what have been available for sale. If and it is if we were allocated 10000 tickets we look as if we are not far off selling them all. If that proves to be correct I will be honest and say I'm astonished considering the ticketing process and no I'm not gonna count the blue seats left 😂 Does anyone know how many tickets we took , I know St Mirren said they'd taken 1000

Yep, hope you bought plenty we need a good turn out 😂