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of course they are , it makes headlines and the media all look after their mates in football. That why no cunt who is dreadful is ever short of a gig. Again, I don't know how bad it was and it should be condemned if it happened but you can rest assured the media will not give balance , it will ALL be the fans fault cos that agenda suits.

Mate you are being naive if you think this doesn't happen at all clubs when fans aint happy. I'm not trying to defend abuse but its the nature of the beast and every player and manager knows it. It wont stop anyone whose genuinely interested from taking the job.

nah he looks like Mrs Doubtfire lol

If this isnt a wind up post - The Daily Record prints shite and SR would give us a two fingered salute.

Correct Clement continues to receive abuse and the Aberdeen fans still abuse Goodwin and actually chuck missiles at him.

That is a very distinct possibility and his mates in the media will ensure that's the narrative.

He does and it serves his future prospects no harm to blame it all on the fans.

To a degree , he might also be pointing at the easiest target other than himself. I cant comment on the personal abuse as I never witnessed it but it shouldn't happen. There is also the possibility he had lost the dressing room and could see the writing on the wall , so chuck it with a record on paper that stands up and blame everyone else and his future employment is safeguarded. We will never know the truth.

Plenty, it's part and parcel of the game. Not defending it but it's reality. We're Aberdeen fans any different with Goodwin. Are Rangers fans any different with Clement. They ve dedicated all their lives to the game. They know what's coming once they lose fans.

Yep Id agree, that is what makes me unsure about SK , do we replace him with someone who serves up the same shite we've watched frequently over the years..

He certainly cant accuse the club of not supporting him in the transfer market.

Its not an easy decision. Glad I don't have to make it. I feel utterly bored watching Motherwell but frankly that was the same under Graham Alexander , Stevie Hammel and now Stuart Kettlewell so would we be sacking him just to replace him with the same turgid stuff. Am I being unrealistic in what I watch, Im not sure because it feels like years since I enjoyed watching us other than a few standout games..

https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2024/02/22/stuart-kettlewell-remains-at-club-until-may-2025/

In SK case it May 2025 which is normally at seasons end. So either side needs to give a notice period that they do not intend to continue (generally 3 months) otherwise the 12 months kicks in. I'd be amazed if there wasn't an element of compensation for a contract terminated in football but it certainly wouldn't be prohibitive.

https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2024/02/22/stuart-kettlewell-remains-at-club-until-may-2025/

Not necessarily. That's not how many rolling contracts in the UK work. Many run for 12 months from a specific date and in their case that was May 2024. Both sides have an option to continue or to end but must give three months notice before the 12 months expire i.e May 2025. If no such undertaking is exercised the contract automatically rolls on for another 12 months and we would then be on the hook for 12 months salary..

Slight difference here is SK has 5 months left on his contract, hardly a crippling financial judgement to get rid of him for those that think that's what we should do. "All this changing managers every 2 years does is cost us money" it does but that is the nature of the beast. Few managers last longer than 3 seasons. Either through moving to bigger and better or getting pumped for being pish.

A pretty good assessment. Basically you can play shite and fans will grudgingly accept it if there are wins. That disappears when results match the displays. SK has had the bonus of being allowed to run the biggest first team squad in a long time and most of those signing are questionable. Thanks for the post from the Herald.

Behind a paywall so cant read it but will no doubt a Jambo, as the sports writer is, telling the folk who watch our utter shite week in week out we have no right to question SK.

No we shouldn't , we may consider that option but I certainly wouldn't be telling him its two wins or hes out. The pressure on us is big enough without adding fuel to the Fire before the games . SK will know hes under scrutiny.

we may not look the same but we play the same and get the same results, hes wasted in our team.

you are correct but for someone who has been in the game as long him he should know that the use of certain words / phrases particularly if there is an inference that its directed at the fans - even if that wasnt his intention - he has just created an unnecessary stick for fans to beat him with. Defo not a sacking offence, his style and tactics will ensure that.

I agree to a point but we've been shite for 2 months except the Rangers game and 15 mins against Aberdeen and Lennon Miller played in most of those games. SK's set up is killing the likes of LM and dragging him down to the dross round about him. I don't think LM's return will change anything until SK starts to play a style that gives him a chance. If LM has any sense he will get out in January cos the current Motherwell team is wasting him.

Correct , I disagree with plenty folk and make an arse of myself often enough, you just take it on the chin.. the poor wee me , everybody getting at me mentality is pointless on a fans forum. I tend to put those types on ignore.

Actually don't give a fuck about this game , wont go, wont watch it, Ill just worry about the Ross County game which we will probably lose. We are utter garbage. Led by a manager who is completely lost and in a downward spiral.