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No we shouldn't , we may consider that option but I certainly wouldn't be telling him its two wins or hes out. The pressure on us is big enough without adding fuel to the Fire before the games . SK will know hes under scrutiny.

we may not look the same but we play the same and get the same results, hes wasted in our team.

you are correct but for someone who has been in the game as long him he should know that the use of certain words / phrases particularly if there is an inference that its directed at the fans - even if that wasnt his intention - he has just created an unnecessary stick for fans to beat him with. Defo not a sacking offence, his style and tactics will ensure that.

I agree to a point but we've been shite for 2 months except the Rangers game and 15 mins against Aberdeen and Lennon Miller played in most of those games. SK's set up is killing the likes of LM and dragging him down to the dross round about him. I don't think LM's return will change anything until SK starts to play a style that gives him a chance. If LM has any sense he will get out in January cos the current Motherwell team is wasting him.

Correct , I disagree with plenty folk and make an arse of myself often enough, you just take it on the chin.. the poor wee me , everybody getting at me mentality is pointless on a fans forum. I tend to put those types on ignore.

Actually don't give a fuck about this game , wont go, wont watch it, Ill just worry about the Ross County game which we will probably lose. We are utter garbage. Led by a manager who is completely lost and in a downward spiral.

We wont go down? I remember Hibs fans saying the same when they were in exactly the same position we are in now and they went down. A play off spot for us is a VERY REAL possibility.

I know that , my reply was a bit of sarcasm that went wrong, didnt attach to original post.

I'm not asking people whether they think he should be sacked but how long do people think hes got before the board act, bearing in mind to get shot of him wouldn't cost much as his contracts up in July. I think if we lose our next two games and end up 9th or 10th 2 pts off the play off the board might well act. This is the second season we've gone through this and the board have backed him in 3 transfer windows.

and console ourselves we are now 7th and 6 points better off than last season...😁

The midfield is so weak and powder puff we will never dominate other teams.

In terms of league placing we are not but in terms of football we are.

I don't disagree.

I had heard the story that Hammel had SOD round the neck in the dressing room after the RR debacle and accused SOD of doing him in, that may or may not have been the case but SH was rightly sacked whether SOD did go above his head or not.

On current form and trajectory its not the top 6 we should be worrying about its the play off spot cos that's where we are heading unless there is a drastic change. I know the happy clappers will be in uproar at that view and will say we are only 6pts off 4th place but seriously tell me one team you have watched in the last two months worse than us. Please tell me what you see that isn't abject shite and gives you hope we wont hit 11th based on what you have watched in the last two months. That is 3rd transfer window the club have supported SK , he has the biggest 1st team squad in yonks and we are still garbage. I know there are injuries but every club has injuries. The argument that the loss of LM is killing us doesn't wash with me. He has played in most of the dross we have watched in the last two months , we are actually dragging the poor guy down to a level he shouldn't have to operate at. LM would not change the utter shite we are witnessing because the manger sets us up to play a certain way. If LM has any sense he will get out this window cos we are doing NOTHING to enhance his reputation and good luck to him. we might need his money in the Championship..

Said to my mate as soon as the clock hit 80 mins if StJ score in the next 5 mins they will win the game. Substitutions destroyed us. But hey what the fuck do I know I've not spent a lifetime in the game.

and console ourselves we are now 7th and 6 points better off than last season...😁

I am lucky I can afford to go but I'm digging my heels in for tomorrow and not going , every away game for over two months I've watched the same shite and the same pitiful results, bar one minute in the St Mirren, and I'm just not doing it tomorrow. Do I care if I miss an unlikely victory ? no I don't

I get that point completely but even if we get that hold up player we have a shocking midfield that will try and feed off it. I would like to see SK try and strengthen the midfield and certainly move on some of the players you mention in another post

Kilmarnock, Fleetwood and Burton were all apparently in for him... we are running an enormous first team squad. Mind you I wouldn't imagine we wont be keeping more than 1 or 2 of those permanent deal who are out of contract in the summer. Well I'd hope.

and we still can still only string 1 good 90 mins in two months.

He will score fuck all with the game plans employed by SK

I will always defend his work ethic , I think he works tirelessly. How good bad or indifferent he makes us everyone will have their personal opinion. I'm afraid I just don't listen to him anymore. He never says anything that changes it for me. He ours until the club decide otherwise. Do I want him sacked ? actually I don't care, it is what it is. I'm indifferent to him now . I'm bored to tears watching shite and just cant be arsed listening to anything trying to defend it. Que Sera Sera as the song goes.

The club just put a vid up of Turnbull scoring , anyone think theres a chance we are getting him back on loan... wishful thinking on my part I think.

Think hes already been tapped up. Kilmarnock are apparently very interested in him.