Yorkyred

Personally I go to support the team regardless, I’m fully aware that under any manager I’m not going to be watching Premier league level football but the Scottish Premiership which let’s be honest is poor. I’ve seen us under Barraclough, McGee, and Robinson. I would say I’ve enjoyed the Robinson experience more than under the other two.

Absolutely spot on. I’ve asked the question before to those that have wanted him out since the back end of 2017 what final league placing is acceptable because at the end of the day that’s what counts. The club’s aim every season is to stay in the top flight, something the vast majority of rival clubs have failed to do, he’s continued to achieve that and some. We have a stable club with a stable management, if he was sacked the same individuals would be calling for the next managers head within months of his appointment, nothing would be good enough. We could play an Aberdeen off the park but the next defeat and we would still have the worst group of players in the league.

So would I but I would take a quality wide player before him in all honesty.

Not a huge fan of Cole in truth. I’m not convinced he’s the answer.

What do you think of the Aberdeen team ?

So do we ignore the wins and just concentrate on the defeats rather than looking at the overall results over the course of a season ? What in your view is an acceptable final placing in the league ?

3rd last season ?

Poor day but again a bit of perspective, last league game we went away to Aberdeen and won 3-0, we’re 3 points off 5th place. It’s all very tight with no real quality outside of the old firm, nothing in it between most teams.

A very poor day at the office with Rangers dominating. I would agree that regardless of the quality of players we just failed to turn up on the day. We could have had a penalty but we were losing regardless, Rangers just strolled the second half and dominated midfield. The defence is a problem with injuries to key players certainly being a factor but we desperately need to sign an experienced centre half, sorry I’m just not a fan of Mugabi, he’s an accident waiting to happen. Lamie simply not good enough, I would have preferred McGinn. I think Robinson is pretty shellshocked this season, he went into it stating this was the strongest Motherwell squad he had worked with and it’s simply not panning out that way and losing Turnbull is not a huge factor, we managed just fine without him last season. There is something missing this season, maybe a bit of belief but it’s pretty evident, you could see within 5 minutes today we were going to lose, pretty depressing stuff. I honestly think every department of the team needs strengthening if we want to do anything, still don’t think we will be relegated under Robinson and games against Celtic and Rangers have never defined our season but regardless today was pretty awful.

A gulf in class today I’m afraid, Rangers have just ran the show.

Second half is just a stroll unfortunately, they are miles ahead of us quality wise.

Personally I think Hartley going was the right decision, we just failed to replace him.

Without doing a lot of research my understanding in a couple of lines. The new law which came into force this season obliges match officials to penalise any contact between ball and hand — even if slight and accidental We should have had one for the push on Campbell.

Sadly men against boys, Rangers won’t have an easier half of football all season. Sloppy, slow, second best to most balls, no one for us had a decent half there. This could end up a real drubbing .

We do and that’s bringing in an experienced centre half to play alongside Gallagher. We’re all over the place in defence.

Yep, I’m afraid so.

Nope, that’s another pen I’m afraid.

The defence just frightens me this season, we desperately need Carroll back on the left and please bring in another centre half.

Game over, Lamie was poor there. This could get messy.

Roy Hodgson made the point that if the ball used to hit your arm and you were not deliberately trying to touch it, it did not used to be a pen, that changed.

By the letter of the law these days that’s a pen, watch the pens given down south over the weekend. Roy Hodgson got it spot on with his after match thoughts yesterday. Should it be changed yes, but it is what it is until they change it.

Looked a pen to me, Mugabi had his arm out.

Yep, negativity goes over the top at times, bigger things. But on the football side we are signing players from lower league and none league down south, many of who would struggle to get in a league one team down there and we still finished third last season, tells you all you need to know about the standard of Scottish football. You can pick individual errors out within the team all you like but it won’t stop them because we simply have players that are not at the same level as those at bigger clubs with bigger budgets. While I would like to see some of the money reinvested in the squad we always have to remember we have a club to support so a balance ( certainly at this time is needed). We’ve finished third, had a decent run in Europe, and sold on players at a good price, yet some are still never happy, very frustrating at times.

3-0 Rangers, a much improved team this season

More that we need a settled defence, Carroll can’t come back quick enough and we did not replace Hartley with a better player. He’s not suddenly become a poor player. Having said that I would have given the armband to Carson anyway.