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Noted. We'll revisit this later in the season.

And we had our chance to promote a promising group of under-20's this close season and McGhee bottled it by offering contracts to geriatrics. And you know what, some on this forum celebrated the geriatrics getting new contracts. How's that working out for you?

Casting my mind back as far as Stuart Rennie and I can't think of any. edit - as above, Ally Maxwell right enough.

Good read on this blog - http://nareystoepoker.blogspot.mx/ "Motherwell should have forked out for a competent keeper The main highlight from Fir Park, of course, was Scott McDonald's outstanding punch into the St. Johnstone net late on. A close second for me was seeing Richard Tait, Motherwell's right-back, take a flyer over the advertising hoardings after crossing for Chris Cadden to score. He had plenty of time to hurdle it, yet seemed to treat it as a High Jump bar. His subsequent rollover and return to his feet was pretty smooth, though, and since everyone else was focused on how his team had taken the lead, I reckon he got away with it. Craig Samson could do with some of McDonald's handling skills, and some of Tait's agility. The home goalkeeper was at fault for both St. Johnstone goals; letting Danny Swanson's effort through his legs was bad enough, but it was nothing compared to his blunder for the winner. I've often thought it was risky for keepers to try and pat down shots aimed at their mid-riff, with the plan being to pick it up on the bounce. Samson made a hash of Chris Kane's shot, letting it spin far enough away from him that Steven MacLean could pounce and score. Despite the occasional Scotland callup of yesteryear, Samson has never been an especially impressive keeper; having been let go by Kilmarnock just over a year ago, he sat on Motherwell's bench for the whole of last season behind loanee Connor Ripley, but is currently preferred to Dean Brill, who was a decent enough keeper at Inverness before a bad knee injury. Samson isn't the long-term answer. But is Brill? Most teams in this league can't afford two outstanding goalkeepers; a better option is usually to get one, and use a youngster, a loanee or a veteran as a backup. Instead, Motherwell have two goalies who would be high quality backups at most clubs. Maybe they'd have been better pooling the money and blowing it on someone who is a good starter."

There's been a surge of taxi badge applications to the cooncil. I blame Yabba's Turd for confirming they make a grand a week.

I said from day one that none of the veterans that were offered a new contract should have been. Some of you went nuts. Performances like this prove me right. A shameful performance.

Man, you lot are easy to upset.

Last word on this topic. I never said it was the basic wage. This all started with me pointing out that taxi drivers earn more than one particular MFC first team player. Now, in the rush to shoot the messenger, you've just posted that £1,000 in a week is possible. I know that's possible as I was earning that in busy weeks twenty years ago. I know guys that own general hire taxis today that make £1200 a week. Some more. The money I made in taxis set me up in business - I make more than that these days which is why I holiday six months of the year. Good for me. The reason why there's been such a vitriolic reaction to this "taxigate," is that it's hit a nerve with some people. They can't handle the fsct that "mere," taxi drivers are on double or treble the money they are on. Some will be astonished by your post that a grand a week is on the cards. It doesn't suit them to believe it - they prefer self delusion. Anyway, thanks for proving me correct that taxi drivers make more than the £450 a week basic that one first team player is on at Fir Park

Anyway, I'm still on holiday and will be until December. Listening to the commentary yesterday I can't remember Clay's name being mentioned once. That must be some kind of a record. Decision time is looming for him and Lucas. Should they stay or should they go now?

Me as usual. On that topic, I couldn't get a taxi last night for love or money. That'll teach me.

You've just read a post by another member saying he knows a driver that takes £1000 in three days. There's seven days in a week, work it out - three days to cover the outgoings - three days to earn the coin. I started in the taxi trade in 1988, I don't need some internet clown telling me how much general hire owner operators earn. It is you, sir, that's talking shite. Usual small minded idiot that can't handle the truth.

Rubbish - I know a dozen that are on that kind of money - go try to buy a general hire plate, £40 - £50,000 it will cost you. People ain't investing that to earn £500 a week. Ya'll are just not reading and understanding what has been written. Which is kinda entertaining and normal - I bet some of you are jumping into taxis and pumping the drivers for info now. Hilarious.

General hire owner operators, yup. The last I heard private hire drivers were earning £700 a week. Anyway, enough with the Ad Hominem crap - that first figure was taken straight off our returns to Companies House, 2012. There was a lengthy club statement saying that they couldn't rely upon European qualification when budgeting ( oh, those heady days ) so they decided to pare back the budget going forward. Now we've slashed the budget even further. They also said in a club the statement that the SPL decision to reduce the prize money for second place came too late for the players bonus to be adjusted. Nett result? we finished second and earned not a coin from it. The players took it all.

2012, the club total employment cost was £3,513,206. That includes every member of the board, club management, team management, admin, ground staff, playing staff, the lot. It also includes the pension contribution and employers NIC for every qualifying employee. The playing staff have access to a specialist sporting pension scheme that allows them to contribute more than normal for their age, and they can "retire," and draw on that pension at thirty-five. The budget has been cut - I'd now estimate £3 million, maybe a shade more. After the pension and NIC contributions are subtracted, and all staff wages outside of the playing staff - I'd estimate the club player budget to be around £1.5/£1.8 million. There's at least forty-five players on the payroll. I'd guess the development squad payroll is around £300/£400,000 max. Let's call it £350,000. So that leaves somewhere between £1.15 and £1.45 million for the first team squad of around twenty-two players. That would work out at an average of between £52,000 and £66,000 p.a. per first team player gross - and that budget will include appearance money, bonuses etc. So the average is between £1000 a week and £1270 gross per week. Lets go down the middle again - that would be £1135 gross per first team player.

I'm not in the know about every player - I'm in the know about one. I also don't know what planet some of you live on, do you think these guys don't talk? don't live in the local area? There's more gossip in a football dressing room than at a drunken sewing bee.

Correct - but the days of players being paid very much by Motherwell are long gone. Taxi owners in the area make more money than most of the Motherwell squad.

Some of us do know. There's a first team squad member at Fir Park on £450 a week basic, I won't name him. There's a lot of fantasy talk about the wage structure at Fir Park. While I don't know who the highest earner is, or how much he is on, there's not many players earning £1000 a week or more basic. James McFadden said it straight during his managerial unveiling interview last week - no one comes to Fir Park for the money.

Fed up with Well fans crapping their pants with the Old Firm. Outstanding draw, cash to the club that may help McGhee swing a couple of deals that he was looking at. What a boost for the players, they'll be buzzing. Just get on the park and do them, we've done them before, and we'll do it again.

Looks like it's a troll - http://celtsarehere.com/rvp-prank-goes-down-a-treat/

Link here - http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-born-wingers-dazzling-performances-11672333

You called? ................................................. What beats me is the amount of people who don't comprehend what they read. Nobody had a go at Flow. It was merely an outlining of the conditions under which I would have a go at Flow. Luckily Flow read the forum and sorted it out before I had a stroke. ........................................................................... What's unique about this forum is how the mods go about their business. I fell off my seat laughing at Mr Passive Aggressive himself, Andy_P, having a go at a member last week along the lines of: "You passed that opinion months ago, don't you dare come back on here this season and pass your opinion I don't agree with again." wtf Anyway - I'm on holiday in a warm clime until December. All the best for the new season.

Hence why I said "if."

We re-sign the player, then give him a free transfer two weeks later? If this comes to pass, it's a humiliation. Mr Burrows can follow him out the club.

Except you. Ironic.

Aye, well it seems that Laing and Moult are a bit doubtful. I know that cos I phoned the customer service line.