wellsince75

Generally believe we're likely to finish 11th or 12th. Livi are likely to invest in players - I don't get a similar vibe from our club. Unless there's a masterplan of investment to be unveiled that gets shot off all those both on and off the pitch it's difficult to see a trajectory that enables us to be optimistic .

I raise that to 15 games with 6 points. On the 12th day of Christmas my true love gave to me 12 journeyman from England 6 points from 45 2 sportsence pundits and a head of recruitment that's total pee.

Large crowds cheering and jeering always has and always will influence the ref . overall we’ve not really offered anything . Didn’t expect anything today - having not won since early sep we need any least 4 points from next 2 games or time should be up .

Just looking around the team - individuals are either the same or worse than what we had in the second half of last season . sod , mugabi , blaney, Paton didn’t get a start for good reason . I think SK is getting as much as he can from this squad but this is his fault - he agreed and signed several players who are worse than what we had . hence no wins since 3 sep

There’s a reason he was +6 months without a club .

Dawes should be out the door. I rather move him on than SK. Was looking at some of the players we had on our books not long before Dawes took over. Carson, Gillespie, Aldred, Gallagher, Watt , Turnbull, Campbell . Crikey even likes of Cole, Long, Grimshaw and Donnelly begin to look decent compared to some of our most recent signings. I'm stunned he's not been released. He's cost us a fortune.

With the announcements this week it will be very difficult to sack the manager. No chairman, no CEO, no money, not announced whatever the cunning initiatives are. Having some continuity will be desired. Appreciate if we don't find a win before the NY it becomes difficult to justify but there's a clear mantra being pumped through social media and beyond about being in it together. The club really won't want to have to sack the manager at this moment in time.

Having a core of youngsters coming through would be better by a country mile than the journeyman approach . not expecting to create a faddy or turnbull evey year but our long line of players coming through has declined over the last 20 years . Like the idea of a model of bringing through youth with a sprinkling of experience . For this we need a long term plan and give someone like SK time to bring it to life

Always count on grizzly for the Christmas specials

Agree if we find 1-2 decent attack minded midfielders + 1 improvement upfront we’d be a decent team (assuming everyone is fit) Also appreciate we may end up 10th or 11th this season but can’t see this run continuing and I can see other teams having their own shit fests

completely on the same page - Slattery spends most of the game looking for free kicks rather than cracking on with the game. Something not right with his overall mentality and all in honesty a passenger who we need to release. He & Spittal both get more game time that perhaps they deserve but at least Spittal is an honest trier who's probably just limited. V's Slattery is one of those frustrating types who has ability but a questionable mentality. Think I'd prefer Bair in midfield than Slattery - just on workmate alone.

I posted about Derek on a different thread but I found it honest and refreshing - the standard is garbage , much poorer than league 2 - he's right to call it out - his timing is questionable but what he said I thought was on the money.

Derek Adams calling our how poor the standard of SPL is. Outlining how the paying punter would rightly stop coming if this was the standard. Lots to agree with -can't help but think us shopping around in the dross leagues of England is a big part of the issue. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67667758

A month or so ago I was convinced time was up but recent weeks are much improved. Suspect a few wins are just around the corner .

Gent , Spencer or Kelly - all had very good games

Personal view is we're a team that's improving. we've only lost 1 of the last 5 games Appreciate the winless run and the concerns we all have but as the weeks go on I think SK is doing a lot well. We needed to strengthen midfield and we have , we needed Gent and Spencer in wingbacks and we have. If we strengthen midfield and attack in Jan I think we'll be pretty solid. The issue for me today was Slattery/SPittal offer very little. As most one of them should play but due to lack of squad both are getting a game. I personally see things getting better. I've seen much worse performances than what we've put in over the last month.

Good point and solid performance . back to basics and last 2 performances have been pretty decent Well done team and manager

He’s his own worse enemy for hitting the ground - if he would focus on playing football rather then trying to win fouls he could prove useful - such a poor mentality

We could replace spittal or slattery with Bair - we need subs on asap that was a shocking miss by spittal

We could replace spittal or slattery with Bair

Very harsh - not sure where his arm could have been

The positive is we’re competitive , working hard and winning most of the 2nd balls . Having paton and Davor in midfield helps - need a bit more quality

Was just thinking the same - I don’t see what value he adds to the team . feel sorry for Spencer on the right with sod hitting useless balls and slattery pissing about

I think we'll win today and by more than a single goal. No clue why, maybe it's the rum in my hot chocolate but we deserve 3 points and need to bring this awful run to an end.

our stinky run started with losing in Paisley, be great to end it there. Time to get 3 points on the board and give us something to cheer about. Feeling update about this one.