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Possibly both are talking about players who they feel are young and haven’t developed fully yet that need more experienced players to help them rather than saying that some players aren’t good enough.

On the football front, I think that Aberdeen have been a team we have fared well against because they always play an attacking game against us that allows our strikers to have room, especially KVV, unlike many other teams who sit in and wait for us to fuck up. This time unfortunately I think that Aberdeen have improved enough to get a result - hopefully I’m wrong.

That’s a shell of a bad joke - awe ffs, it’s contagious !

No matter who we employ- especially if we were to go with Hammell - I think the fans will have to be very patient while things get sorted. Defence is shot to hell confidence wise but I believe that can be fixed between the end of this window and the January one. Midfield likewise but I think there are players there who can work if they are played correctly to their strengths and get the backing of the crowd. Forward line is more difficult, KVV has talent but without space is limited so I see him better played against teams who don’t pack the defence or when we’re ahead and they have to come out. Shields put in some decent crosses and I feel he would prefer to have ball put in front of him to chase rather than snatch at crosses as he’s not quite sharp enough yet and hasn’t had any luck in front of the goals - strikers go through these phases and I hope he gets a lucky break soon. Efford is a strange one, will give his all but again it never seems to come off for him - reminds me a bit of Curtis Main. Looking like a long hard season

Thanks, that’s depressed me.

I also asked for KVV stats which you ignored so I went to the site you quoted from and from what I can see, offensively he had 1 shot, 2 dribbles, dispossessed twice, 1 bad control and no key passes, no crosses or through balls and 1 long ball. Not really any better than Morris or Shields but that fact doesn’t fit your POV. As for other teams strikers I had a look at Hibs Who dominated against StJohnstone and Chris Cadden played 77minutes, offensively only has twice dispossessed and three bad control, 1 cross and 3 long balls. On the St J side, Jamie Murphy 61 minutes played 1 shot, dispossessed once, bad control once and one cross.

We appear to have a proven working academy which produces a couple of players a year. There is a clear pathway to the first team but unfortunately, as we all know, the cream of the crop leaves before we even see them and all we can hope for is that they generate future income but at the moment it seems like it’s the Well society that’s paying for the academy. The other youngsters who make it through to the first team are the hard working young players who will become professional players at or around our level, decent players who sometimes make mistakes but on the whole put in a shift and hopefully don’t get to much abuse. There very unlikely to be stars who go on to greater things but if we’re lucky they might just exceed everyone’s expectations. As said these guys need more experienced guys around them and this is where the club has to target it’s small resources alongside taking a punt on one or two guys who can generate a return. Bottom line is that free flowing exciting football plays second fiddle to the reality of trying to stay in the premiership.

Stats are great things that can be used to make any case/statement. What was KVV stats and how do our guys compare with similar guys in the rest of the league?

Agree regarding Sol and I think at the penalty it was good work by Shields, a good lay off to Carroll who then put in a nice cross into the box then Spittals shot was actually on target. Decent all round play for a change.

I seem to think that when we signed McGinn it was said he can play LB, if true then maybe put him to LB and play SOD at RB. LB is definitely our biggest problem. Alternatively, could he play either in front or behind McGinn if we play a back 4?

Think it’s on premier sports

I think they will sit in, our best chance will be shooting from outside the box and hope for a flick from the strikers or a deflection. Also along with this I’d be leaving someone up the park at corners that we can punt a long ball for him to run onto which would also require another fast player who can then try to get up to assist him. Therefore, KVV should be benched until we’re back in the game and they’re forced to come out. Some won’t like it but I’d have Teirney and Shields on from the start to try this with Morris, McGuire and Slattery all told to shoot as much as possible.

KVV is too much of a hot and cold player to put our faith in, add to that the fact he plays best when he’s got space and most teams - especially teams in a similar or lower budget as us - pack their defence against us and it’s no wonder he looks deflated most of the time.

That chant - or any other bigoted, racist, ect chant - should never be heard at FP.

“Sing in the chapel”pish - presumably because there Irish - very embarrassing ☹️

Alan Burrows and the rest of the board - you have fucked up by not putting the euro money into better quality players. Tonight showed how shite we still are, unable to break down a defence and no one with the guile to play a through ball. most league teams - the same as last season - will just sit back, soak up the poor crosses, high balls etc and then hit us with the one or two chances they get. The board’s decision’s not to spend money on the squad will see us relegated.

The guy looked good last week. Might be difficult to put a few past him.

Club Twitter says dates to be confirmed

Are we weaker in terms of numbers? Given the fact that last season we had a bloated squad due to Covid, I’d say that the squad is heading back to the numbers that it historically has been.

Any links to the game?

Only seen tonight’s game and although the commentators spoke of how poorly Sligo played compared to there recent league games, apart from their keeper who looks good, I think that there’s not a lot to fear from them and I hope that I will leave FP next week safe in the belief that we’ve done enough that the away leg shouldn’t worry us - then again we are Motherwell, so nothing can be taken for granted.

Sligo keeper looks no bad so I’d make them favourites if it does

Think it’s to do with not wanting both Welsh teams playing at home on the same day, might be similar to if rangers and Celtic were drawn at home at the same time but I’m only guessing.

So away in the 21st and home the 28th? Both games still a Thursday?

Yes, then penalty’s