MJC

The Green Brigade are way, way out in front of the Union Bears in every level, just like their club is way out in front of Rangers in that regard too. The GB are far bigger, far more dangerous and have a lot more clout than the UB could ever hope to have. They have powerful people with big voices and a lot of influence at various levels of sport and politics on their side and in their ranks. So even though the Union Bears might display similar behaviours, they don’t have the same leverage with police and authorities. Even Celtic as a club can’t control the Green Brigade.

I can only go on personal experience and as I said I’ve seen and heard first hand the people they associate with and the questionable views they express. Some of them are thoroughly nasty individuals and it’s not just me who has that experience of some ‘the Bois’ either. I get the pyro culture thing and indeed every club nowadays seems to have an element like that in their fanbase. Obviously though the Well Bois are the ones that I see up close and a lot more often and I don’t know if any of the other groups have the same Green Brigade style behaviours like the faux victim mentality, releasing big victim-y statements and the general entitlement like our clubs lot have. I’m sorry but from what I can see there is just too much similarity between the Block E brigade and the Green Brigade for my liking.

Perhaps not the entire group, but from what I have seen and heard for myself over the years there are certainly some members of that section that are on good terms with certain Green Brigade members. Certain ones I’ve had the misfortune to encounter seem to share similar ‘political’ outlooks as well and are extremely aggressive about it into the bargain. Then you take into account that the Well Bois willingly stood shoulder to shoulder with the GB at Fir Park and held a joint protest over heavy handed policing less than two years after that Friday night game where the Celtic support led by the GB caused thousands of pounds worth of damage to the South Stand. Yet they went along with that regardless. Then you’ve got all the behaviours and tactics which are similar to that of the Green Brigade… Being aggressive and confrontational to police and stewards then immediately playing the victim card when challenged. The pyro, the banners, the pitch invasions. Churning out big long winded statements calling for boycotts and trying to manipulate and lead the rest of the support into following them. Even dressing in a similar way with face coverings albeit without the dark green jackets, instead they wear all black. As I said, so much of their behaviour is very Green Brigade. Ya_bezzers post above puts it a lot better than I could with the key point being that groups like this seem to put themselves and their interests before that of the clubs. That’s exactly how I see the Well Bois I’m afraid.

“Fucking weirdo” ”Tells it as I see it” ”Uncomfortable truths” ”Tomato” “Toe-may-toe” ”Not buying the Well Bois bullshit” ”Fucking weirdo” There it is anyway

There’s nothing I would love more than for us to ban that vermin from Fir Park but in reality we couldn’t actually do it and even if we attempted it then it would cause more problems than it would be worst. What you would almost certainly get is Celtic fans buying up home end tickets in their hundreds which would put our fans safety in jeopardy and as a result would put Motherwell fans off going to the game. The ‘Well Bhois’ would no doubt stage another joint protest with the Green Brigade about their unfair treatment, probably buy them tickets for ‘block E’ so they can stand in solidarity with them, or lick their boots.

That is the biggest ‘tragedy’ about this whole ridiculous episode. That these attention seeking bams have got themselves attention by having Motherwell fans arguing about their behaviour rather than discussing the team itself and our first league victory of the season. As I said earlier if they just supported the team without all the shenanigans with pyro, jumping on the park, shouting abuse at stewards, covering their faces and puffing their chests out like pigeons the second they are inevitably challenged for their behaviour then they wouldn’t have any issues whatsoever. But clearly they value their status as a group more than supporting the club itself otherwise they wouldn’t deprive the club and the team of their support.

If the ‘Bois’ just went to the game, supported the team, sing their songs, chanted their chants and so on then there would be no issues whatsoever. There would be no unwanted attention from the stewards. No club imposed ‘stadium bans’. No arrests. No legal proceedings. But that group seem to have no intention of simply supporting the team. They have previous for jumping on the park, setting off flares, pyro, arguing with and in some cases shouting blind abuse at police and stewards all while dressing themselves in black and covering three quarters of their faces with scarves or whatever. It is no wonder that their cards have been well and truly marked by the club and the police. But just like their idols in the Green Brigade they love a grievance and a reason to protest about something so I can’t see them ever changing their ways. Some of them might grow up and grow out of it but there will always be younger bampots ready to step up and follow in their footsteps. Groups like that are part of the problem, not the solution but I reckon they already know that anyway, despite what their “look at us” banners proclaim or their protests are supposedly based on.

Well that was a welcome surprise today. I know we usually manage to record at least one win against Hearts every season but that was a lot more comfortable than anyone could seriously have expected beforehand. We actually looked like we could do damage as an attacking force today and we did. And we’ve gone from zero goals scored by our players in 90 minutes so far this season to three different scorers in one game. That’s quite a leap. And if it hasn’t been for Craig Gordon it might well have been a far higher winning margin!

Doormen, stewards, police. Bit of a common theme running there isn’t there? Now either they are extremely unlucky and as they say being picked on and singled out for unfair treatment by people in these types of roles….or they simply have a massive chip on their shoulder and have an issue with authority and being told they can’t behave in the way they want to whenever they want to. No doubt alcohol and other substances are involved in fuelling their behaviour but even aside that that group comes across as very ‘entitled’ and they don’t handle it well when they don’t get their own way. Right out of the Green Brigade textbook of “we’ll dae what we like and if you tell us we can’t then we’re being unfairly treated”. In other words, total bullshit.

I don’t know what Hearts equivalent of the Well Bois/Block E brigade is or even if they have one. But I do know that their support as a whole is significantly better than ours in just about every aspect, not just the numbers they have. And their club song pisses all over “Up the Well” from a very great height. “You can find us at fir park the home of foo-oot-ball” Suffering fuck.

Yes i think that’s pretty accurate. If I remember correctly those incidents were the basis for the ‘protest’ that group had in the March ‘23 game against Rangers at Fir Park. The day before that game they put out a long winded, Green Brigade-esq statement/sermon crying about heavy handed policing and asking other fans to join in with them in boycotting the first ten minutes of that match. Of course that hilariously backfired on them because we scored to go 1-0 up in the 5th minute and all the ‘protesters’ who had congregated at the top of the East Stand stairs then all came running down towards the front to celebrate the goal so their wee ‘protest’ didn’t really get past first base.

No disputing that but at the same time it helps if they behave themselves when they do come to Fir Park or whatever away ground. I seriously doubt that the club are simply handing out stadium bans for nothing.

Ahh ‘Block E’ the ‘Well Bois’. It’s never, ever their fault. They’re just normal match going fans who like a singsong and creating atmosphere. It’s not as if they’ve got any previous for throwing stuff, pyro, confrontation with police and stewards and jumping on the park or anything. No reason whatsoever for their card to be marked so they’re clearly being victimised. Seriously, why can’t they just go to games, support the club/team without acting like arseholes? Then when they inevitably attract attention for their behaviour they start with the ‘grievances’ and feet stamping tantrums. The rest of the support seem to manage it no bother and funnily enough they don’t get banning letters and stewards giving them attention. Tragic.

I’ve always hated it when we do this too. It kills the limited atmosphere there is at FP. Come on now! Can’t be saying stuff like that or you’ll get people suspecting that “Rangers are your big team”. Both Old Firm teams fans are as bad as each other yada yada yada. But on a serious note we’ll surely need both tiers open for Hearts fans this coming Sunday as they usually bring a big support.

They rotated their team quite considerably against Falkirk and regular starters like Clark, Shankland, Grant, Kent, Devlin and McKay didn’t start the game. That won’t be the case against us. And then there’s the ongoing issue with us and our ineffective attacking play which has seen us play now three competitive games and fail to score a goal by any of players in 90 minutes. We’re getting nothing on Sunday.

0-3 Hearts as they get their first win in eight. But to be honest if somebody had offered before todays game that we get past Kilmarnock in the League Cup then get pumped off Hearts I would have gladly accepted it.

Desperation tactics even though we are ahead. Thump the ball 40 yards whenever we can. That is our tactics it seems…

Discounting the group stages that’s three competitive games and zero goals scored by any Motherwell player. We have serious problems.

This is absolute torture. We’ve got nothing about us to suggest we’re going to score and it’s just kicking the can down the road until the inevitable penalty shootout defeat.

The ‘Well Bois’ would probably start greetin and stamping their feet about “Heavy hands, empty stands” if we did that.

Both Dundee clubs, St.Mirren and Killie are better than we are. And then of course you’ve got the bigger clubs like Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs. We are a poor, poor side with a manager who is out of his depth.

You’ll not see Ap Stam for a while, if ever.

Watt on the bench, Halliday remains undroppable, looks like one up front again. Playing for penalties by the looks of it

Extra Time today if level at 90 mins, it’s only the group stages that goes straight to penalties. Expect it to go all the way today with the boot in the balls at the end with a penalty shootout loss to ensure maximum agony for us. Apart from us being weak as piss up front and unable to score goals, these types of games are usually the type that Motherwell just do not win….a Cup game against a Premiership side. Our record in such ties is dismal and I think our Scottish Cup 5th Round win over Aberdeen a few years back is our only win against a top flight side in our last TEN. It does not bode well for today. And on a separate note, can Tony Watt actually play for us today? As in it is known 100% that if we do select him we aren’t breaking any Cup tied rules??

We won one, perhaps two league games between the January and the split that season and when 0-2 down at Livingston we’re heading for bottom six until we scraped a last gasp leveller and other results going our way over several weeks helped our cause no end. It was a fluke, no two ways about it. If anything the credit should go to Tony Watt for his goals in the first half of 21/22 otherwise we would have been in relegation trouble never mind in with a shout of top six.