MJC

It might not have any bearing this year, but last years was unveiled on the 14th June, so perhaps next week? Edit: Checking back further, in 2021 it was the 9th June and in 2020 it was 11th June that we introduced the up coming seasons kits. Going by that then we can expect it soon. Just hope it’s a proper, no nonsense Motherwell kit this time.

I like Cornelius and would love to see him properly make his mark for us, but as said he is on the lightweight side which hampers him. A lot will depend on our transfer business this summer and if or where he fits into Kettlewell’s plans after that.

That Rangers team was absolutely bang average, or rank rotten by their standards. But I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that had Stuart McCall been in charge of us instead of them for those games then we would not have beaten them.

Yes of course they could do that without the armband, but that would make the man who actually has the armband captain in name only? Like I said earlier, maybe it is just the way I see it but the goalkeeper being captain just doesn't seem right. The captain should be a focal point of the team, heavily involved in the play and where necessary talk to teammates and officials. Can a goalkeeper really do this if something occurs up the other end of the park? Obviously I take your point about other players also being vocal and leading on the pitch and it's always good when you have more than one leader in the team, but I just think there should be that man who is the focal point and he should, imo, be an outfield player.

Exactly, there was none of the subservient fear of them that'd we'd seen all to often in previous games against them, especially under the man in their dugout for those games. For once we went out and showed them no respect instead of 'playing the name' of Rangers and we got the job done.

Not a specific former player but it is eight years to the day since the playoff 2nd leg, part two of the most important result for the club in the last decade and more. The players on that day really stepped up to the plate after failing to do so all season. Ainsworth, Pearson, Johnston, McManus and of course Lee Erwin are the names you instantly think of when remembering those games.

Maybe it's just me, but I'm not a fan of a goalkeeper being the captain. Plus I don't really see Liam Kelly as a leader on the pitch like Butcher or Casey would be. That's not a slight on Kelly as I still see him as a key part of the team, just not a leader/captain. If KvV is going then it would be better for us if he goes sooner rather than later and before pre-season or the season itself starts. We lost Cedric Kipre on the eve of the season in 2018 which was a massive blow for the team as it will be if/when Kevin van Veen goes. At least if he moves on in the close season we will have the chance to prepare for life without him and get a replacement lined up.

Kelly is one we should definitely be keeping. A solid and reliable goalkeeper who has bailed us out on numerous occasions. I would though be taking the captaincy off him and giving it to Butcher or Casey if we manage to keep one or both of them.

I remember that, as well as “I want MY players to aim higher than Motherwell”. I’ve no problem with players or managers having self confidence, even when it borders on arrogance. The great players and managers in the game have tended to have a degree of arrogance about them. The difference with McGhee was that his self confidence/arrogance was all about him on a personal level, not the club and that’s what I couldn’t stand about him. There was always this “I’m better than Motherwell” attitude about him and he made very little attempt to disguise that.

100% this. It was easily the worst of our many ‘jobs for the boys/old pals’ moves in the last decade. Mark McGhee first time around was the best managerial appointment that John Boyle made in his time. The way he turned that team around in summer ‘07 to deliver some sublime football, a third placed finish, European football and all while dealing with the tragic death of Phil O’Donnell was an incredible feat. The problem thereafter was that from 2008 onwards McGhee had clearly decided that he was too good for us and spent the majority of the next season virtually making no secret about that. He was obviously going to leave that summer and when the Celtic and Aberdeen jobs became available on the same day he hung about here for as long as he could in the hope he would get the Celtic one, before eventually accepting Aberdeen. Meanwhile we were sitting with a squad of out of contract players and a manager with no intention of staying. That left a bad taste in the mouth as he basically treated the club with contempt. To bring him back after all that in 2015 was a ridiculous move and his behaviour and attitude was no better. The quote that always stands out is “this is why, and please don’t misinterpret me here, I am managing Motherwell today and not Liverpool”. It takes a really special type of arrogant walloper to disrespect the club you are employed by during a press conference like that but that cap certainly fits McGhee.

I think the comments about Sondre and his megaphone swaying opinion in these polls are fairly accurate to be honest. Though he did contribute more than Bevis or Lamie in the first half of the season. Kevin van Veen certainly has enjoyed a ‘purple patch’ since Kettlewell took over in mid February but he has clearly been out and out our best player all season long. Without the goals he got from August to February we would probably have been facing the playoffs this week at best. I know he cut a frustrated, even huffy figure at times during that spell but given that he was getting next to no support from his teammates and the system we were playing just didn’t suit him then I can understand that. He definitely did improve significantly when SK took over, as did Blair Spittal who has looked a different player to what he was under Hammell. When you then factor in his almost ridiculously good scoring run in the last round of matches then it is no wonder that he is our player of the year.

Well, that was hugely satisfying in the end. If KvV does move on this summer then best of luck to him. He’s been superb for us this season and it’s been a pleasure having him here. Likewise Max Johnston, a top young talent who will do well in the game. And finally it’s brilliant to see Dundee United relegated and for us to beat them in the process. Delightful stuff. #Down, Down! Dundee United are Down, Down! Dundee United are Down, Down!# Get it right up them and their media chums.

Delighted for Johnston. Now let’s see if we can fucking hold on to this!!!!

Well taken from Spittal! Lovely finish.

We’ll probably get them in the league cup group stages. And lose to them.

Kettlewell has done a superb job for us but being schooled by Jim Goodwin twice in just over a month is a bit of a sore yin for him and us.

And there it is. Game over.

Well so far, so expected. It was brilliant to see KvV smash yet another record and once again he took it really well. Apart from that though we have been second best as we usually are against Utd. Mugabi demonstrates yet again that he just cannot be relied upon. We’ll be lucky to get out of this with a point.

Whether that award was justified or not Mugabi is an absolute bombscare, always has been always will be. The games going the way it usually does against Utd at home. Scrappy and poor from us and them looking the more likely side. That’s why all the talk of us pumping them today was absolutely wild. We NEVER pump Dundee Utd at Fir Park.

Only one winner now.

Beat me to it! A beautiful sunny day Premiership safety secured KvV scoring for fun Playing at home against a team effectively relegated… …all of the above points to the game itself being an anti-climax and a disappointment. Now I don’t have a crystal ball and I’m not proclaiming this to be “The Gospel according to MJC” here. But from pure experience of following Motherwell, this today has defeat or at best bore draw written all over it.

We’ve not beaten them at home in two attempts so far this season. We tend to struggle against them, especially at home. They beat us 2-1 at home last month when we could have effectively relegated them and secured our own safety that day. We might be missing some key players, namely defenders. They have more incentive to win than we do. We might win, we might lose and we might draw tomorrow. But suggesting that we will pump Utd and that it will be a skoosh (and yes, I know that no one as actually said that, but…) is overly optimistic in my view.

Definitely. There is FAR too much over confidence about tomorrow on this thread. Talk of KvV hitting a hattrick and us pumping them? When we get that it rarely if ever comes to fruition and as I said, it’s never that easy against Dundee Utd, especially at home. We’ll be doing well to get a draw tomorrow imo.

Graham Alexander been appointed Head Coach at MK Dons. Hopefully he comes in for Josh Morris.

The term ‘odious prick’ could have been invented especially for Tom Boyd.