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Not impossible given that we found ourselves in a diminishing returns scenario with Kelly this season.

It's unquestioned that the defence has been shit this season and that Kelly has had great spells for us over his several seasons. However, it's complete denial to suggest that he's not been poor at times and that he's not had a part to play in only keeping three clean sheets this season. I don't care who he gets offers from or how much he's paid; all I am saying is that his record this season is shit.

3 clean sheets in 38 games.

Let's hope that the next cancelled PCA will read Andy Halliday.

Transparency and democracy are key. There's too much speculation at the moment.

Just kidding 😉

Not putting a proposal to a vote would be a surefire way for the WS to lose the goodwill and support of paying members. Democracy is key.

I mostly agree, but only as Casey hasn't had the best season. He's a solid SPL player and carries a goal threat, so I hope having a proper pre-season this time will help him. I don't see us releasing all 4 of those you suggest. Halliday already has a 1-year deal, unfortunately, and I can see Kettlewell wanting SOD and McGinn. Slattery, however, may well want something different as he recovers. Spencer proved he was good enough for us and more, no thanks to Kettlewell. Whilst not a world-beater, Davor did have a hand in our changed fortunes. He's a decent squad player. I think Vale could go on to have a decent career, but probably not at the English Championship level.

Remove the 'oxy' and you've just about nailed it.

This thread should be re-titled: ‘Irascible happy-clappers vs doom-mongers’

A few others could considered: Spencer - gone; positive outlet once Kettlewelll realised he wasn't a LWB. Davor - under contract; tightened up the DM position, allowing Miller to flourish. Vale - end of loan; introduced tenacity up front until Kettlewell nullified his threat by dropping him too deep.

This a rounded and sensible post calling it exactly what it is.

Wonder no more, as engaging critically with a hobby brings me plenty of positive satisfaction, and I’ll continue to do so, which will continue to piss off those who are unable to remove their rose-tinted specs and who love to try to belittle those with anything other than positive spins on reality.

For all I'm apparently obsessed with Kettlewell, many here are equally obsessed with people like me who dare to call a spade a spade. See you next season.

No shit, Sherlock. That’s me told. I guess I’m not qualified enough as a fan or have enough time-served perspective to be able to offer an opinion as a supporter. That’s not what I wrote. I've discussed at length my dislike of the arrogant Alexander on this forum. Keep up. Good for you, but we’ve already discerned above that we’re not the same. Living the dream.

Grow up.

Because I won't stop supporting the club I've followed for 30+ years just because the current manager and the majority of the squad are crap. Most of them and the manager will be gone soon enough.

One swallow does not make a summer.

If he does, he'll be signing his death warrant at the same time, so let's wait and see how smart he truly is.

Absolute shite. See you all in August for more of the same.

Nice goal, but too little too late.

Their first goal comes from a cross that the RWB should've prevented, but we've got an attacking midfielder playing RWB for reasons only known to that genius Kettlewell. Then the crossed ball should've been cleared by a competent centre-half, but for some reason, Kettlewell decided to put Mugabi back into the starting lineup today. The less said about the Mugabi-Kelly clusterfuck for the second goal, the better. This shitshow so far typifies this entire season, and for as long as we have Kettlewell at the helm, we'll see the same defensive frailties next season. We may score freely at times, which is commendable, but it's clear that he doesn't know how to set up a team to defend or how to get the best out of the average players available on our budget.

Because that ref is a clown. He also missed an obvious corner for us at 40 mins when the defender blocked Bair's shot.

The entire backline can GTF after today. The club also needs to employ a defensive coach.

3 clean sheets in 38 league games is appalling. The players and coaching staff should be embarrassed.