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It's not shite, and Merry Christmas!

The last thing we need right now is more of the same. It's just not working and it's very clear that he can't turn it around.

Let's be honest here; he's not getting sacked around Christmas. If it happens, it'll happen in the new year and, hopefully, before the transfer window, as I wouldn't trust him and Daws not to piss away our meagre budget on other stupid projects and crocks.

When you look at the past several months, I'm afraid to say that the buck does stop with the manager. It's his job to train and set them up, and if he can't get them to work hard and do simple things like track runners, for example, someone else might. He and the players have had umpteen chances to prove themselves, and they've collectively failed, but we can't sack the team.

Useless. We gifted them 2 goals and didn't lay a glove on them. Anyone who thinks this team and manager will gain 4 points out of the next 2 games hasn't been watching for the past several months. Kettlewell should've been out the door a while ago as he's shown that he doesn't have what it takes to get a tune out of this shower of absolute shite. The only thing that should save us from going straight down is that Livi are worse.

Rangers and Celtic get these decisions. Always. Other teams don't. It's fucking infuriating and will never change.

Paton making Cantwell look like Messi. Embarrassing.

The manager is crap but he's steering a shite ship built by him and other twats.

Blaney is absolutely murder. Another Alexander/Daws special.

What's the point in having Davor and Paton in those positions if they can't swarm on the number 10 (Cantwell) on the edge of the box?! Fucking pathetic. They've downed tools.

Rangers won't need dubious decisions going in their favour when we’ve got pathetic players gifting them the ball.

Because he thought he could rely on the experienced pros to mask his inexperience? Or because he likes to put square pegs in round holes because he gives them so much information that should make it work okay? And now he realised he's wrong and has begun to simplify things regardless of experience? Who knows?!

Yes, it seems like we’re witnessing a slow demise with the occasional valiant whimper.

I'm surprised it took so long to get him this chance.

Fair enough. We may not have been getting steadily worse, but not winning for over 3.5 months and scraping a few draws instead of losses isn't necessarily an improvement when the bigger picture is considered.

I think this is sugarcoating things. The reality is that we haven't won a game under him in over 3 and a half months.

We're away to Aberdeen midweek as well. All three will be pivotal games in his/our fight for survival.

I agree with this. If Kettlewell somehow survives several more defeats & draws, then Daws has to go before the January window if Kettlewell is to get a fair chance to prove himself to the Board and fans. However, the whole ‘hanging my hat’ nonsense gives me little faith in his ability to identify and sign the type of players required to improve us. In the end, it may be that they both need to be relieved of their duties before the next window, which is highly unlikely given that the Board seems to be focusing its energies on a transition plan and ignoring the reality of our current awful run.

It's probably impossible to have a reasoned discussion on this topic without individuals nailing their colours/biases/misunderstandings to the mast, so maybe let’s move on and return this thread to a discussion about former players.

Based on my belief that Kettlewell is invincible because the Board doesn't want to or can't afford to act, here are my three views: Rangers will thump us, scoring at least one penalty. Kettlewell will still be the manager in January. Fuck VAR.

I am not piling on, I am adding my tuppence worth to broaden out your point. I think the wider fiscal context is important to consider when discussing the new tax rates for Scotland. What do people living and working in Scotland get for 'free' at the point of service/provision that they would have to pay for in England? And does that 'saving' outweigh or balance with the extra taxation? Succinctly, and for example, some will now pay more tax in Scotland to help pay for certain public services and education, whereas those equivalent pay less tax in England but have to pay for certain public services and education. Progressive taxation allows people living and working in Scotland to access public services, which footballers also need and use. Therefore, I think the new tax brackets are ultimately a moot point to footballers, and everyone else earning a good wage in Scotland, when the wider fiscal context is understood, which I am sure most sensibly-minded people in Scotland are aware of. It's pretty depressing to see those earning £100K+ per year complaining in the media recently about having to pay a few extra pence of tax on the pound when the average salary of those around them is about a third of what they're earning. Tl;dr - we get things for 'free' in Scotland as we pay tax to get them; they pay for things in England as they don't pay the same levels of tax required to get them for 'free'. I realise this is a simple summary, but it's also based on fact.

It's evident from their signings and his tactics that neither of them seems to know what they're doing. The dots just don't join up.

Daws needs to go.

This stament from McMahon is very interesting, although perhaps signals the end of majority fan ownership: “It has become very clear over the last few years that for the club to operate on a sustainable basis, provide the manager with a competitive player budget, meet the vastly increased cost of our other activities including having a successful Woman’s Team and maintaining a fit for purpose Stadium, Training Ground and Academy facility, that it will require significant investment; funding on a similar scale to that received by many others in the SPFL. We have undertaken a large amount of work and held numerous discussions to explore how we could best achieve this. The final stages of a fund-raising initiative are almost complete and will be ready to be shared early in the New Year.“

We haven't. Neil Doncaster has.