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And in doing so has also done himself no favours at all. I think we’ll see the new Chairman address things, hopefully in a much more diplomatic way, to try to smooth things over.

I guess we’ll be waiting a while to find out as the CEO seems to be in mourning instead of doing his job.

This isn’t going to end well.

For the hard of hearing and illiterate amongst Scottish football, please note Kettlewell did not lose his job, he quit. Putting the concerns around Kettlewell’s reasoning for quitting aside for now, a red flag for me is that Caldwell seems to have been watching a different run of games and performances to the fans of late. And let’s not forget that bad run in 2023. We have been utter shite and have clearly been at risk of free-fall, but Caldwell’s words would have you believe otherwise and suggest that he was generally content with Kettlewell. Perhaps he wasn’t, but him appearing to publicly side with a former manager over the fans will only fuel the unhelpful ‘us vs them’ narrative that has developed following that resignation statement. This whole debacle has unnecessarily grown arms and legs, and I don’t think it’s over doing so.

Kettlewell and Caldwell have shown us that the limited budget line is a bit of a red herring. We can’t be skint at the same time as being able to build a squad as big as it currently is. I’m certainly not suggesting we’re flush enough to afford Campbell, but we’d be a helluva lot closer to affording quality players if we didn’t pad out the squad with a quantity of injury prone guff and gambles.

The sooner we accept that the holier than thou and zombie brigades get preferential treatment from the authorities, officials, media, etc, the sooner we can get on with it. We have to make peace with the fact that we’re pissing against the tide, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t stand up for ourselves when we’re held to a different standard than others are.

Which is exactly what all fanbases across the world do when performances are shite.

We should definitely keep this thread open to see how Kettlewell reacts in his next job once he's found out by the fans and they start to put the pressure on him.

Says the moderator of a fan forum.

I'm sure if the club continues their PR disaster and further alienates the fanbase, Caldwell will be getting a fair few emails from longstanding season ticket holders explaining why they are no longer renewing. Perhaps then he will conveniently remember who funds his and the players' salaries.

Someone who doesn't bring their family to work.

No booing from me. I'm merely making an observation on a forum. He does, however, need to improve his performances.

Edit. Back to a cricket score. https://x.com/CorkCityFC/status/1884303331570639351

The club - in its infinite wisdom - is doing its best to create an us vs them scenario. I mean, how dare the fans of a fan owned club express their discontent at how their club is being managed. Disgusting fan behaviour. All of this is very unwise and won't end well for Caldwell or the players who comment negatively about the fans in the media (e.g. SOD).

SOD has absolutely zero self-awareness here. I'd go as far as saying that he's pretty much just Kettlewelled himself unless he can turn his own performances around.

It’s not, but many were/are of the belief that we weren’t in bother and that Kettlewell and Frail should remain as they were.

Yep. Exactly as I posted yesterday. Rather ironically, he's pulled off a tactical blinder here.

There's clearly more to Kettlewell's reasoning for his departure than he and the club are letting on, although I'm sure it'll all come out in the wash soon enough. That isn't said to diminish the reality of any hurt he or his family have sustained due to alleged/reported/whatever verbal abuse dished out at matches; it's just odd to have resigned over a few nutters shouting vitriolic shite at you, particularly when it's considered that he's been getting that level of in-person abuse since the bad run of 2023. In the meantime, however, apparently we're the most evil disgusting bastards in football, and we have that club statement to thank for that.

I don’t see anything other than Frail being made ‘interim manager’ until the end of the season, along with the current coaches etc. That scenario, which may or may not be pretty, will give the club a decent amount of time and space to find the right candidates for the entire management and coaching team for next season. The pool of potential candidates will also be better by the end of the season.

The club’s statement on Kettlewell’s departure stinks of McMahon’s departure statement, where both continue to highlight the need for a head of comms or media strategy or something to that effect.

There is no need to blow the load early on Frail as he already has a rolling contract.

As you say, Frail pretty much has a free hit until the end of the season. He does well, then he either walks away or is extended. He doesn’t do well, then he either walks away or isn’t extended, citing that the damage had already been done under Kettlewell. It sure is going to be interesting seeing how Frail sets up his team and to see who he does/doesn’t start etc.

Given that Kettlewell has been allowed to blow the family jewels on his massive squad before he jumped ship, and the fact that Frail's salary is already factored into the budget until the end of the season, I can't see the club rushing (or afford) to employ a whole new management team at this stage. It'll likely be Frail to the end of the season, then reassess.

I've now downgraded my prediction to a rugby score.