Jay

In some sections. In others, those wanting to sit will be in the minority and will end up standing as well. It happened at the semi-final and it'll happen at the final. Keep in mind, the first two or three rows in the East and West Stands at Hampden are so bad, you have to stand if you want to see any of the game anyway. If the front of the stand is standing, so will the rest of it thankfully. I'm just hoping that the "sit doon please" brigade will be few and far between in section B2.

To be fair, I've heard "Three Little Birds" a few times at 'Well games now. For that reason, it gets my vote ahead of something that doesn't get sung at all.

That near the front in the West Stand, you'll probably have to stand just to see the park! I concur though, I have no intention of sitting on my arse at a Scottish Cup final either.

I would hope that those choosing to be in 'the singing section' would be expecting to stand and therefore it wouldn't be much of a problem. The sections much bigger than the semi-final though so I'll be surprised if there aren't some folk greeting about sitting down unfortunately. Hopefully they're vastly out-numbered by those standing though.

8 of your pals are in the car park.

Pretend it's an Old Firm cup final and the town'll be bouncing.

The singing section's B1 to B5 apparently. Of course, at a Scottish Cup final the "singing section" should just be the part of Hampden where 16,000 'Well fans are.

Aye, that was the figure under "proposed allocation" on the stadium plan in the ticket office. Anyway, that was an experience. We decided to go down for the ticket office opening today because Joe, who was paying for all the tickets in the oner, works in Newcastle the rest of the week so it had to be today, and going in the morning meant still having most of the Bank Holiday free. Of course, we weren't really expecting so many other folk to do the exact same thing. 3 1/2 hours later, we finally got our tickets. Block B2, Rows R & Q. To be honest, I much prefer the further back the better at Hampden (unlike steelboy it would appear!!) but I'm happy to have it sorted. The time in the queue actually flew by, it must be said. It was a good laugh! That said, it wouldn't have been my first choice of activity for a Bank Holiday Monday morning...

I don't think he played well, but I certainly wouldn't pick him out as being any worse than the rest. He had a very difficult job yesterday with Steve Jones in front of him shiting out of tackles and not tracking back. I wouldn't argue with Ross being given a new deal. But for someone who made a point on Soccer AM's Crossbar Challenge of saying he's out of contract in the summer, Jones looked like he couldn't care less.

I thought that was pretty obviously the point, but evidently not.

Aye. Cos we're all in the position of being able to "pop up at any point during the week". Aye, very good. I'm on a forum where people post up their opinions, and my opinion is it's a fucking joke. If you don't like that, "dry your eyes".

Exactly. I'm a season ticket holder and I'm allowed to buy four tickets. The email addresses or house numbers of those going is of no relevance whatsoever. As I said, it's just an excuse to build up a database by making the fans do the hard work, whilst simultaneously making an absolute shambles of selling cup final tickets. Could be talking hours standing in a queue in Motherwell while folk fill out forms, stopping half way through to phone their mates to get postcodes etc. At the very least, they should have folk with forms and clipboards going up and down the queue getting the forms filled out before punters reach the ticket office. But it's Motherwell Football Club, so probably not.

Aye. Something to look forward to. First Name, Surname, House Name/Number, Street, Town/City, Postcode, Date of Birth, Age, Season Ticket Stand, Season Ticket Seat Number, Ticket Requested, Contact Telephone, Email Address. It's basically a database-forming exercise, get the fans to do it for them. Make everyone fill out a form with pointless information then batter them letters and e-mails. I don't mind it to a point - it makes business sense I guess - but people will end up turning up at the ticket office needing to fill out the form there and then, adding about another 10 minutes to each purchase. I'm wanting to go to a game of football, not apply for a fucking Visa. Tomorrow's going to be great fun.

This "Application Form" is a load of shite by the way. I'm filling ours out just now, but does that mean we'll be standing in a queue for the majority of the day while everyone who hasn't done so already fills out pointless forms asking for ages and e-mail addresses? I'll also be ticking the box at the bottom to ask the club not be sending out correspondence - I'm not in favour of wasting the majority of my day off work in a queue thanks to filling out forms so the club can sent everyone letters. And what's this "collection in person only" shite? I'm turning up with four forms - the season ticket holders on each are me, my uncle, and my two cousins. I will be expecting 16 tickets. No one's telling me all four of us need to turn up to buy them, surely? Fuck me. Turn up, give your voucher, buy your tickets. Over-complicated nonsense.

I'm a season ticket holder and we'll have enough tickets for our group thankfully, but it was definitely the first thing that popped into my head when I read the last few posts!

Myself and Joe have shared "ticket duty" over the years (mainly Joe!) where one person goes over to buy tickets for rest of the group for games like the European ties, semi-finals etc. On every occasion only the name of the person buying was ever required, not the 5 or 6 names of the others.,,

Just like during the 2-0 game against the Tims in February, this'll be our cup final anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a84L1hVVEls

Would usually head straight into town, but reckon it'll be back to the 'Well for the booze after this one.

Aye, the worst ones have been the folk posting up pretending they think they won't get a ticket.

Can't believe there are still folk on the verge of hysteria. You'll get a ticket. Take a beta blocker and chill the fuck out.

The singing section point is a good one. At the semi final there were a good few folk around me who clearly had no real intention of actually singing. I dunno if they'd just gotten tickets for there without knowing where they were getting tickets actually for, or they fancied being in the middle of the atmosphere without actually bothering their arse contributing to it. Either or, might be worth reinforcing the first word in "Singing Section" when folk are buying tickets.

Oh aye, you don't have empty seats, the left over seats can be sold to the opposition without any complaints. But at least the SFA could pretend like the term "neutral venue" is even remotely accurate. We already knew that the Celtic fans would get the traditional "Celtic end" and the team will get their usual dressing room. The idea of it being a neutral venue is already laughable, without giving one side almost 10,000 more tickets than the other from the very start. Why should Motherwell Football Club only be allowed the chance to play in a legitimately neutral venue if they happen to play an Aberdeen or Kilmarnock in a cup final? It's not our doing who made it through the other rounds and past the other semi-final, and yet we're penalised because the SFA will pander to the Old Firm before even considering any notion of fairness. Again, I don't think we'd have sold anymore than 16,000 with a 50/50 split anyway, but it's the principle of the thing. The Scottish Cup final next month will not be played at a neutral venue, despite what they try and claim. If that was because we didn't sell enough tickets, I think we'd all accept that. But it's not - it's because the SFA have decided it won't be a neutral venue from the very start.

I don't dispute that and, had we been given 50%, I would only have expected us to shift 16,000 tickets anyway. However, the numbers are irrelevant, as are the clubs playing the final. The fact of the matter is that a domestic cup final at neutral venue should be exactly that. If it's supposed to be a neutral venue, then the ticket allocation should be neutral as well. Who is playing, what their average attendance is, how many season ticket holders they have, what their attendances have been in earlier rounds - all irrelevant. The moment you start giving one side more tickets than the other, for whatever reason, is the moment any notion of a "neutral venue" goes out of the window.