Jay

Even if a few sad acts really did write to Craig Brown, what relevance do letters from Motherwell fans have in the slightest? "You can't punish me because three 'Well fans have confirmed in writing that they were embarrassed by John Boyle." Wee old rat bastard.

Franny Jeffers scoring the winner would be even sweeter.

Agreed. If a few thousand Dutch and Northern Irish fans can make a racket inside Hampden, there's no reason why 7-8,000 'Well fans can't. If there's a shite atmosphere in the Motherwell end it won't be because there's only 8,000 'Well fans, it'll be because the majority of the 8,000 'Well fans can't be arsed making it any more than a shite atmosphere. Which, let's be honest, is quite possible.

Why anyone would want to play it in a 3/4 empty Hampden instead of a rocking Tyncastle is beyond me.

Top bombing lads. Take it this will be occuring in C4 or C5? We're in one of the two but Joe bought the tickets so I'm not entirely sure!

Fair enough, I didn't actually know what sort of allocation teams usually get against the Old Firm in a Scottish Cup final. I think nowadays, with ticket costs etc, 20,000 might be a little too far, but I'd expect us to take 15,000 - 18,000 to the final. Perhaps a bit too early to be talking about final allocations though to be fair! Still reckon we'll take about 6,000 on Saturday but anything over that would be great.

You can't seriously be that excited then surely? If it was genuinely the most excited about a game you've been in 20 years of supporting Motherwell, then surely you'd be going? Or am I just completely missing the point here?!

It's all very well saying there could be 20,000 'Well fans up for going to the final, but it doesn't mean we'd get that allocation. What size of allocation do non-Old Firm sides usually get in a Scottish Cup final against one half of the Scum? If we can only muster around 6,000 for the semi-final, then I really don't see why the SFA should look to give us 20,000 for the final. As for the semi-final itself, the total number isn't what really bothers me. 6,000 'Well fans would still be capable of creating a good atmosphere. The problem is it's going to be 6,000 ridiculously split into three sections.

6,000 'Well fans I reckon. Then if we win we can look forward to folk greeting at us only getting about 12,000 for the final against Celtic, despite it being double the number of folk who could be arsed with the semi.

Aye, but the game's on Saturday.

Motherwell 3 - 0 St. Johnstone The crowd to look fucking terrible on the TV due to it being split into shite sections. Jamie Murphy, John Sutton and Franny Jeffers to score. Stuart McCall to get meltit after the game and fall off the roof of a motor in the Hampden car park. Danny Grainger to struggle to handle Chris Humphrey so much, he's subbed after an hour in tears and in the midst of a severe mental breakdown.

He was the worst player on the park during the trialists game at Fir Park last year and Broon was clearly at the wind-up handing him a contract.

From that comment you must know what was said. Please enlighten us.

Possibly. I agree with what you're saying - the truth is he's a wee two faced bastard, but in the media he's portrayed as the cuddly old gentleman. We obviously recognise he's a chancer and that his lies tonight reinforce that, but do fans and folk involved with other clubs know that? A St. Mirren fan isn't going to spend time analysing the situation, as far as they're concerned wee Broon's probably telling the truth IMO. And Aberdeen fans probably won't even acknowledge the way he left us shows him up as being a wee rat. Regardless, it's all about getting a cooshty ride by the media and the folk around him. Boyle's whispered something in his ear and he's lost the plot, grabbing at Boyle's jacket and making himself look like a wee idiot. He's also just saw his team beaten by his former team. So he plays the dignified gentleman once again, dropping hints at embarrassing secrets without going into detail, and generally just making himself out to be the victim. Once again, the vast majority of folk (ie. not 'Well fans) take it at face value and his cuddly reputation is left intact. Maybe I'm just not giving people outwith the 'Well support enough credit, but I really doubt if his reputation has changed much since he left us outwith our own support.

As I posted on the other thread, Craig Brown knows exactly what he's doing. He plays the wee cheery gentleman to absolute perfection, always on hand for a soundbite or a quote. I bought into that image for years until we all saw just how two-faced a wee rat he was when he left, and at that stage we suddenly realised just how well he plays the media game and knows exactly how to work things in his favour. This is another perfect example of that, and the media will lap it up. He's a smart wee prick.

My favourite quote from that Sporting Life article has got to be: "An apparent majority of the home support appeared to clap when chanting from some implored them to register their "hatred" for the former Scotland manager." As for Craig Brown's "dignified silence" and shite, let's be honest - we all know by now he knows exactly how to play the game. He did it when he left us and he's at it again. A wee rat bastard, but a wee rat bastard who knows exactly how to work things in his favour.

No, the "Non-Singing Section" is pretty much anywhere away from Hampden.

Voted for Humphrey. Stevie Smith will be having nightmares about him tonight.

So? Don't get me wrong, I don't condone abusing him outside the ground. I don't really care whether or not there's abuse inside the ground either, he was a wee dick in the way he left for Aberdeen but I'm not particularly bothered about it anymore. But if folk want to abuse him and it makes the media, who really cares? Since when did any of us really give a flying fuck what the likes of the Daily Record and the Sun write?

Aye, our seats for all the Scotland qualifers in the North are row BBB I'm sure (the very back row) - absolutely tremendous seats! If they're selling from the back forward then I'll need to sort my ticket ASAP! That said, seems a bit pointless - the layout suggests they want to make it look half decent on the tele, which surely becomes more difficult if there's empty rows at the front!

Alan Gow is a talented footballer, he just couldn't give a flying fuck. I've seen very few players as disinterested as he was. I don't think I ever even saw him challenge the defender for a header. Struck me as the type of player you have in your Sunday team who's real game is for another team on a Saturday, so strolls about not caring in your game. I was delighted when we got rid of him. Jeffers, on the other hand, puts in a shift and has the touch and movement of a top player. He might not have lived up to his potential, but you don't go to Arsenal and not learn how to play the game properly. Jeffers > Gow. By a mile IMO.

Or they could just have put all the Motherwell fans together and all the St. Johnstone fans together. It's worked for years, it's hardly rocket science.

Laughable ticket layout. There's no reason why the "singing section" couldn't just be next to the rest of the fans. Ridiculous.

I just clocked that. What an absolutely fucking ridiculous way to set out the fans. Link to the stadium plan. Laughable.

Surely anybody who was at the game would agree there were clearly more 'Well fans there than usual?