milo

Everyone.is pretty much in agreement about what is going wrong and why it isn't working. So why can't the manager see it?

Steven Craig? Remember when he left us it was because he said he wanted folk on holiday to have heard of the team he played for?

Can only echo the concerns of the other posters above. Part of me expected us to turn up yesterday with the injustice of Wednesday still fresh and give Dundee a hammering. Part of me expected us to play poorly but at least scrape a win over the worst team in the league. Part of me expected what we witnessed. As I posted earlier, the panic button was pressed after yesterdays performance and result. It's been building all season. Clueless, devoid of ideas and confidence, no drive or determination and the same tactics and formation that have served us oh so well all season. The same culprits that have been poor all season continue to be poor and now old/other favourites can't be relied on either. My patience has ran out with Hateley and his deliveries and don't get me started on Humphrey. Must be the worst right hand side of a Motherwell team since, well I don't know, but even Malpas had Corrigan and Foran playing there. The left hand side despite featuring two favourite players of mine isn't working, and hasn't worked ever really as Murphy isn't a left midfielder. Centre of defence is incredibly fragile and suspect even against Dundee. I don't know how the fuck we're going to get out of this, especially as McCall seems completely unwilling to alter the starting 11. I know we aren't blessed with options but surely tae fuck giving Carswell or Hetherington a start and moving Law back to left mid is worth a shot? We have no money and Ramsden, Daley, and Kerr are contributing nothing and wasting wages that could've been used to keep Jennings and secure a capable replacement. Meanwhile at Fir Hill a player we deemed not good enough is tearing teams apart.....

I've pressed the panic button. We are that bad.

I'll be using my season ticket to get into this I'm afraid. I'm in the Well Society, bought two new strips, was at the European games and it costs me £30 in petrol to get to and from home games at the moment. I can't give anymore. On to the game..... I expect McCall to make no changes with the exception of Hutchy being back if fit. The panic button will be getting pushed if we don't win this one.

Good points Tweed. I suppose.....

Everyone may well be capable of beating everyone else but outwith Dundee no team has endured the run that we are currently on.

It's worth mentioning Humphrey was playing against Brian McLean at left back who is a centre half, or right back at best. How many times did he get the better of him? I said before last night that a minimum 3 point haul from this week was required. I stand by that but even then this is now turning in to as bad a run as I can remember for a long time. Saturday.is now a must must win and even then it also has be be springboard to a decent run as the season is already looking pretty wretched viewing. 5 defeats in last 6 games (including 3 home defeats in a row) No goals scores in those defeats. 1 clean sheet all season (and that was opening game) 1 win at Fir Park all season. Late, late goals conceded in 4 occasions (3 of them costing 5 points).

No way did we deserve to lose that but if you don't take one of the umpteen chances we had there's always a sting in the tail. Whenever a game looks like it might end goalless the other team always nick it. Final ball from us at times was fucking atrocious and substitutions continue to baffle. Ojamaa was really unlucky with both efforts that hit the woodwork. Saturday at Perth has papered over the cracks though.5 defeats in the last 6 and only 1 win at Fir park all season is extremely worrying. Failure to win on Saturday and I am officially hitting the panic button as I have pretty much lost all confidence in McCall.

I was amazed to see Utd managed a point today as when I last checked they were 2-0 down with 10 minutes to go! I was hoping they would be comprehensively beaten thus depletwing their confidence for Wednesday..... Shows that Celtic aren't that invincible. Except againt us! Would take a point to be honest. Provided we then beat Dundee of course. Anything less than 3 points from.the next 2 games would be a really poor haul.

Didn't see that coming and credit where it's due as every player played very well including the subs who also had a positive worthwhile impact. Could have and possibly should have even nicked another one. I was disappointed to see the only change was Cummins for Kerr but it worked today and we looked fairly comfortable throughout. The players and McCall deserve praise as they have taken a bit of stick lately but that performance was arguably the best of the season. Laws finish was sublime! St johnstone were a dirty niggly moaning team. Left the boot constantly and the ref let them away with it.

Cummins in for kerr is the only change. Fucking joke.

The powers that be clearly saw nothing wrong with his performance. Incredible, but hardly surprising. Some of the worst officiating I've ever seen. How incompetent does a ref need to be before he gets banned/demoted?

I'm going on Saturday as form has never been a deciding factor in my attendance of games. If you're a Motherwell fan it surely can't be! I've endured worse runs than this and still went to reasonably great lengths to make the games. In fact, I wouldn't even really class this as a truly "bad run" really, it's more themanner of how it's gradually been building that's the most concerning. I'm not apathetic at the moment, as I'm starting to get worried about the rut we appear to be in and a seemingly pigheaded approach from McCall over systems/players/formations that everyone else can see bar him. If I turn up at Perth to see Humphrey starting with Murphy wide left and Law in the middle then then ball is burst as that's one of the main problems we've had in the last while. I've said before that I will really start to worry if Dundee win a game before we do. Truth is we haven't kicked our own arse all season and got lucky in the opening half dozen games. Playing in Europe was a factor we were told by multiple sources for a slowish start, but if anything our results were better then?!?!? We're missing Jennings and Craigan more than we ever missed McFadden, McDonald, Jutkiewicz, Clarkson, Porter, McCormack, O'Brien or any other star player that's left in the last 10 years. There is seemingly no drive, determination and guts running right through the team either. I would even go as far as to say that McCall has been really stung by the (deserved) criticism of the Sevco debacle and this has since affected his approach. The performance that night (and subsequent ease with which ICT then brushed them aside) will stick in Motherwell fans craws for many a day in fact. Apathetic? That's different. Last time felt that was when Brown shafted us and McCall began his tenure with defeats to Killie, ICT, St Mirren and St Johnstone in amongst it. We weren't in any danger of going down but due to circumstances in life at the time I really had to question whether other priorities were worth missing to make the effort to watch Motherwell. Especially if it meant getting up at 8am on a Sunday to travel for a noon kick off. I even missed the Stranraer cup game to go and watch Leeds v Coventry!! Before I felt guilty about missing a game, I now know that's ridiculous! For me, apathy in football is more dangerous to a fanbase than poor form orworry, and when long suffering die hard fans finally say "Fuck this!" the club(s) should worry. I'm not even nearly at that stage yet, it's the cost of petrol and ridiculous kick off times that will ultimately affect my attendance at the moment.

We need to stop the rot. I'd bite yer hand off for a point right now. Cannae see it though. Despite the obvious requirements for changes I fear the same starting 11 also.... Home win.

We are so pedestrian in possession. Nobody is running off the ball into space or to create space for others. Humphrey practically marks the oppositions left back time and time again!! Zero cutting edge up front, midfield is weak and defensively a naive shambles. Where are the next points coming from? We were told early season insipidness was due to fatigue from European games as apparently professional players can't play 2 games a week and "just watch us go" once they're out the way. Really? Time to drop Humphrey and Kerr, recall Page from Accies, get Carswell in middle, Law back to left midfield, play Murphy up front or not at all, give McHugh a run, and hell, even Daley!! It's worth a shot and can't be any worse than what we are currently suffering. The current set up/approach/tactics are taking us nowhere except down the table and at an alarming rate of descent!!! The management team are raising too many questions at the moment and none of them are being answered.

Op prediction starting to look a fair assessment?

If Dundee win a game before we do I will start to get a bit twitchy to be honest. We are completely rudderless.

The baw is on the slates if something isn't done about that ref. I've never seen a performance like that. As a team though, we're in a lot of bother.

If hateley is playing in midfield again we can kiss goobye to getting anything from the game. It would be great if McCall named the team just now so I know whether to bother making the 160 mile round trip.

Same team as santheman for me, with the exception of Humphrey out and Daley in. Not ideal but worth a shot. I'd also be tempted to try Ojamaa wide right (also not ideal) with McHugh up front. Gave up trying to predict the scores years ago but I think we'll lose.

I do agree with Jay but 100percentsteel hit the nail on the head with every point he made aswell.

Carswell only got a chance due to the injury to Hutchy. He played very well too. I'll be furious if I turn up at Fir Park on Friday and Carswell isn't starting. McHugh deserves a run in the team. We're starting to look a bit toothless whilst everyone bar Dundee have picked up a couple of wins. The league is very tight as expected but we're drifting towards the bottom of the pile.

Pretty much.

Insipid as it was, I actually thought we deserved a point there but could've played all day and not scored. Created fuck all though, and Hearts have not played well this season and still looked pretty comfortable. That said, goal aside they didn't do much either. Our corners were atrocious. Whoever it was that started that thread that said the season was going to turn on Aberdeens equaliser could be right though.