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  1. Maybe you should read the offer before commenting http://www.thewellsociety.co.uk/share-sale-faq/ Non-members purchasing shares will be given a pre-steel membership of the society
  2. very possible weeyin, and essence of my comment, one off sale of the family silverware (20% shares). sell them and they have gone, use the return it to pay a loan off early when its not required, no reserves for any future problems some may argue we'll not sell the full £500k , but I feel , responsible business management would just not offer that amount , leaving teh society with no leverage in the event of any of the situations it was set up to protect the club against
  3. Selling the shares wasnt put to a vote, opinions were sought, so giving away memberships wasnt voted on as part of this party piece Depends,would that be your interpretation from the opening statement
  4. People need to be realistic , its a multimillion pound businesss that quite possibly could be desirable for any number of reasons primarlily its assests as speculated ( based on historical trends) , that is offering half a million pounds worth of shares in a public sale. not your mates printing of some wall art it wouldnt take a forensic investigators to match shareholding to individuals, what's your name, I'll tell you how many shares you hold, its a PLC its all online & public, albeit with a time lag. Fair enough to the folk who only want a certificate for the wall for £50, don't concern yourself, dont even bother to ask if its an ordinary or deferred share you are throwing a tenner at, if you don't care about that stuff, let the representatives get away with poorly worded FAQ's and throw away comments whilst speculating with your club assets. PS you might want to ask if you will get a certificate, as I cant see anywhere that says you will and for £50 income and share registration costs any acknowledgement is eating into the goal, but hey an easy and obvious question for the FAQ...... as of 16 January 2017 there were 2088 Deferred shares and 298712 Ordinary shares so 300,800 total number of shares in Motherwell Football and Athletic Club Limited (The) SC005702 on that date , The Well Society owned 17,115 and 204,700 from a quick scan (221,815) approx 73.74% they are offering up to £500k of shares if taken up with the share discounts could easily reduce shareholding to almost 53-57%, what are the plans for the cash raised? I notice they have rolled out the 'reserves for the club' line, after the whitewash of society funds being transferred to the club, I consider that slightly ironic and would ask for some re-assurances that, as they are effectively selling of the family silver in a one off deal, the funds are truly ring-fenced and we get back to core principles of the Society funds being loaned to the club, which is required to operate within its means of commerical income, with a full and binding expectation that the loans are repaid, to ensure the society does have reserves to support the club well into the future. and all of this just down to an almost ignorant FAQ section , which considering the sale is public might even be reported if someone so feels the need. I'm all for the sale of some shares, for me they would need to be oridnary with voting rights, otherwise the funds are as well straight into society and keep what are the societies only assets, in tact for future security. what really pissed me off, was making the sale public, and giving away free memberships, of the society, to any non member buying shares in the club, totally undermines the very essence of every current member buying into the 'society' to get that one member one vote. the only reply from the society is 'but they dont get rewards' (with the free membership) that just pissed me off even more, aye magic they dont get a pin badge or entry into an away ticket draw or place on a tour that there is no public evidence have ever happened, but being a member they get a vote on all society matters and can nominate for the society board, Farcical! P.S I'm sick of the society membership rewards being branded about as justification for anything, but the lack of governance on them is for a different discussion
  5. Dave are you answering on behalf of the soceity and the specific type of share they are selling, or offering info' on your own shareholding? Its important , the society answer clearly for this financial transaction. nothing is clear on the FAQ's regarding what type of shares these are, and what rights comes with them.
  6. Who says Motherwell fans don't have a positive outlook , born? and raised in the West of Scotland and still thinking we'll be about and able to tell the difference between Russell and Moult in the 2040's as for Favourite Goal, Psychos, Faddys, Moults et al are all up there but absolutely no doubt in my mind, one of Kirks simplest headers at the back post will be forever my favourite. Cooper swung a corner in from the right, into the wind, it teased Alan Main out towards 6yard line he got hands to it but under challenge from Paterson & Griffin? the ball made it through to Kirk arriving 3 yards out at the back post and he powered a header into the net.
  7. Dunno.....but the League match vs St Johnstone is now scheduled for Tuesday 6th February 2018 19:45 ko http://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2017/10/27/saints-fixture-switched/
  8. with almost £4k banked there is a chance that this initial target could be achieved within 24 hours which would be a tremendous boost to everyone involved and help keep the buzz driving on. I'm not sure what seeing players, staff, executives and directors, Pedro , the SFA compliance officer and hundreds of Motherwell fans chipping in indicates, but its a nice feeling! go on , join in !
  9. as strange as it it , following a 2 goal performance from a star striker I too am going for Trevor Carson , the most quietly assured performance in a huge game from any keeper I can remember
  10. Genuinely interested in WTF this post even means ?
  11. might have acquired a decent wedge of funds , new suits etc ..............
  12. most of them I know keep harping back to yon irish fella that got them the cup , Kenny ....
  13. Shea Gordon has had to pull out his U21 international vs Estonia Looks like Dylan King called up in his place
  14. But you do along with a few others, by shouting down anyone with a different opinion, or psyche, which you deem negative why are fellow fans not allowed to evaluate performances or league positions as they see it and discuss on an open forum? others respond to points, your likes just tell them they are wrong and shouldn't be looking/commenting about games/players/club/income/league standings that way. if nobody throws up queries or observations - there is no debate or opportunity to discuss / reflect on improvement opportunities or even that constraints would prevent change, but its still nice to consider potential for an even better outcome, by exploring perceived weakness or even just balancing expectation and right on cue
  15. Fair to say more give the effort than withdraw labour, one that comes to mind is' Pearson - did not give an ounce of effort even when Butcher still picked him, and I dont believe (even more so with hindsight) he would kick a ball for any team after deciding his future was elsewhere. thankfully Moult is in a different person from him on so many levels , hopefuly he can get the rewards from football pearson did
  16. Jay or anyone else from the society thats lurking, one of these months I'll make that surgery! in the meantime I'll not dwell on concerns around other soceity business regarding allocation of memberships funds, but need to state one thing, the society selling club shares, which are the societies only financial assets, if it does go ahead , should only be selling these shares to society members. imho.
  17. there appears to be 6-12 scouts nearly every game recently speculatively - how much is Moult worth to Motherwell January to May? Scottish Cup Rounds: Fourth Round 20 January 2018 Fifth Round 10 February 2018 Quarter-Finals 3 March 2018 Semi-Finals 14 & 15 April 2018 Final 19 May 2018 League place - last season was maybe easy , 11 or relegation.... , what does Louis mean to league place this season for those 4-5 months
  18. Rules changed, so that's not quite what's in play, although effectively , we are still in the clear. it's now as reads below:
  19. Stuck with the orignal intentions Dave. So as well as the earlier payment to cover Louis Moult away , Peter Hartley away sponsorship has now been paid to the club so thanks for all the contribtions , I'll sort something out later in the season to draw a couple of winners , who'll receive the sponsorsed tops and the invite to the end of season event.
  20. It's even better live .... if you or any others can make it, around 4000 home fans the last couple games , be good to draw even another 100 or so along
  21. Allan Campbell fairly easy choice , but pleasing that Bowman ran him close and a few others also turned in great shifts
  22. Tommy Coyne confirmed there was a wage cap when he arrived at the club in the excellent interview for the podcast book off air 2 - clicky Actually on that note, get ordering Off-air 3 - limited print run click here The quality of the first two has been outstanding and all the profits from this one go the Well society and will be doubled with the Les Hutchison double money offer Anyone notice Faddy signed a deal at Queen of the South Edit: Faddy and Tommy Coyne m'lord in one post - I can leave the internet now
  23. Was there some doubt over his existence? He was at the Hearts game, looking well enough Unless Irma has caught him
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