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If we didn't sell Turnubll this summer, we'd be just fine financially. (And it's not like we'd get no money for Turnbull in 12 months time). We just need to be careful we don't end up with a model that ships players out after a few games (or no games in some cases) rather than actually provide some benefit to the first team squad. This feels like we're tipping the balance too much to the cashing in side of our business plan. Of course we are a selling club - but the "grow your own" model is supposed to provide the core of our team too. If Cadden moves on in the summer, Campbell is the only regular starter left who came through the system. We might see Maguire, Scott, Semple, Cornelius etc. involved next season, but there needs to be a balance between on the field needs vs off the field finances.
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Who's all going to the AGM then?
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There was no need to sell him at all this summer. We don't need the money - we do need the entertainment value.
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For the rest of his career now he will be referred to in the media as "Celtic's David Turnbull" - followed by "ex-Celt David Turnbull" Personally, I'd have preferred that we kept him for another season (where maybe he helped us to a top 6 spot) and then sold him. Even if we got less for him (and that is debatable if he had kept improving at his current rate), that would would been of more value to the fans that stump up at the turnstiles every week. If we're going to start punting every good youngster before they have played a full season for us, then I can see a few fans walking away.
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Could maybe add some minimum criteria for the first round. Cup winners, league winners, number of appearances or similar.
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Just after he signed, I saw a Rangers fan predict he'd be loaned out for 18 months before being punted to a League One side. (Not because he was useless - just because that is typically the way Rangers treat the youngsters they sign).
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Remember when you used to post on here about how useless Higdon was?
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The email about double your money deadlines was sent from The Well Society address earlier in the month. The one from Craig Hughes was more of a personalised end-of-year statement telling you what you had contributed, and how they had been using the funds. The mention of the double-your-money was just a final reminder in case you had intended to throw a few extra quid their way, but hadn't got around to it.
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I'm pretty sure if there were any top performing, higher level strikers who wanted to play at Fir Park and that we could afford, Robinson would snap them up. Development fees for youngsters and non-league teams that can offer more money to older players, make that more and more difficult.
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The transfer window doesn't close until Sep 2nd - so plenty of time for other business. We won't be signing top-level, on-form strikers any time soon, though,
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The more I read this thread the more I feel like I'm the only one who wants Turnbull to stay for another season. We're a fan owned club - we aim to break even and put some entertainment on the park. While I support our business model, I might be reconsidering it if it means we sell all our best players before we get a full season out of them. There has to be a balance here. Keeping Turnbull for another season might decrease his value next summer. If he improves again, it might increase his value. If all we want to do is grab cash as soon as we get a whiff of it, we could sell Fir Park for flats and groundshare with Accies.
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To be fair, Bill Gates had a famously similar opinion about the internet in the 1990s that left Microsoft scrambling to catch up. And he should have known better than Mr Swinburne.
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Mine came from Craig Hughes rather than the usual Well Society email address, so worth checking spam folders etc. too.
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17th according to the official website PRE-SEASON SCHEDULE Wednesday, 17 June: Players return for pre season Monday 24 to Friday 28 June: Training camp in Belfast Wednesday 26 June v Crusaders (A) Saturday 29 June v Linfield (A) Tuesday 2 July v Gretna (A) Saturday 6 July v Darlington (A)
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I just hope we haven't turned into an American style sports franchise where we sell the player even if he doesn't want to leave. I'm still a little amazed at how people would rather be working to punt him ASAP than find a way to hold onto him for longer.
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Repaying an interest free loan before you have to isn't really good business. Not only does it tie up short term funds that could be invested elsewhere, but it costs less in real terms to pay back £1 twelve months from now than it does to pay it back today. If we didn't have any confidence we can service the loan for its duration, or if early pay-off would be at a discount, then it would be a different matter.
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We don't have to sell him to anyone. He seems quite content to stay and we aren't desperate for the money. For me, the ideal scenario is that he plays another season for us as a Motherwell employee. The risk that he suddenly becomes worthless is neglibile. I'd much rather see him in claret and amber for another campaign than sell him now and use the money to buy 2 or 3 players that will never be as good. We'll be lucky if we ever see a player of his talent again, so let's not rush to offload him.
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Celtic have recently claimed that Tierney is worth 30 million Euro (£26.6 million). So even if they thought Turnbull was half the player, that would mean an 8 figure offer is required.
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To be fair, any striker that plays against us is likely to score. That aspect of players joining rival clubs has never bothered me. I agree he put in some great work for us last season, but I think it was a good time for all parties for him to move on.
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I agree he can do a job. I just don't think that job is goalscorer. Still - in the grand scheme of things - he's another example we can point to regarding progressing a career by coming to play for us.
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Main's agent must have sent them a video of the cup semi on an endless loop.
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Not only that but we have our own youngsters that we likely want to develop in the holding role.
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In the past 10 years or so, Aberdeen have had good value from their MFC Scouting subscription.
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His career stalled after his fall out with Steve McLaren (plus the injuries, of course). Still one of the more sucessful 'Well players, though. Just wish we had a sell-on clause when he was signing some of those big transfer deals.
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Depends if the discussion is actually about supporting the victims, or just taking pot shots at Celtic. Most of the social media posts are just people points scoring against Celtic rather than any real concern for the victims.