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Aye, we have new players to bed in plus a tough start to the season. Way too soon to start hitting the panic button - although no doubt we'll see plenty of that on here in the next few weeks. I would have been delighted with 6pts from the first 4 games, but won't be starting to make any kind of judgement until the first round of fixtures has been completed. Forget last season when we had to pull in all those players just for numbers. We are rebuilding this season and anything around mid-table will be a success. Still wouldn't have started Taylor tonight, though.

Too early in the season to make judgements. With Fletcher, Moult, Ripley and Taylor bedding in and Skippy missing a preseason, it's always going to take a few weeks at best for the team to take shape. I still wouldn't have thrown Taylor into this particular game though. At least guys like Leitch and Chalmers are up to SPFL speed.

A Tyncastle debut for a new signing who might not even be match fit yet maybe a bad idea?

All I said was I don't know if Taylor should start at Tynecastle the day after he signed. No doubt he'll get plenty of game time (assuming he performs for us). Although if we sign another midfielder like Baraclough was hinting, someone will be disappointed every week.

It wasn't his inujry problems that made him bad mouth every team he played for.

If he's crap, we can blame Tom Hateley for telling him what a great club we are.

Giving Taylor a few days to settle in and get used to his new teammates is hardly sentimental. Maybe everyone on here has seen him perform well already this season. I suspect he's not match fit and will need a game or two to find his feet. If he plays from the start, more power to him.

That's what annoyed me about Kerr. Bags of talent, but what he possessed in ability he made up for in equal measures with poor attitude. Thought he'd made it at Newcastle and just expected it to continue without applying any effort.

You say "International Class Player", Reading says "good enough for a League Two" loan. He may or may not be a great signing, but I still wouldn't drop him in at Tynecastle as a first team starter. Oh, and Brian Kerr was an international class footballer with 2 more caps than Taylor.

But a guy who hasn't kicked a ball in anger is ready for a Tyenecaslte debut? He might be, but I'm not sure I'd be taking that risk. I wouldn't be surprised to see him come on as a sub, but I'd be surprised to see him start.

Mostly because Taylor hasn't kicked a ball for us. I would expect Leitch to keep his place.

Be surprised if we started Ainsworth, Johnson, Skippy and Taylor together.

Not good, but not as bad as it could have been.

A quick scan of a few match reports seem to indicate he plays centre mid more often than left side.

I see in the Times this morning Yogi wants to bring Vigurs back to ICT if he can get the budget.

He's as Welsh as James McCarthy is Irish.

I agree - but there is still a contingent of our support who make those snap judgements. Which is ironic given the clamour to blood youngsters who will be even more inconsistent.

Given the step up required between leagues, I don't expect to see the best from Fletcher or Moult for at least 3 months or so.

They are 10 a penny, because every team has them and Scottish football, I'd argue, has too many of them. Filling midfield with guys that can run about a lot, but not so clever when it comes to finding the killer pass. Guys like Nicky Law, Gary McAllister, Bobby Russell (plus of course a fit McFadden) are much harder to find.

Are you saying Pearson, Lasley, Leitch and Cadden aren't ball winners? We are crying out for someone who those guys can pass to, and have been since Josh's brother left us. It's all very well knocking it wide every time, but we need someone more central who can spray the ball around too. A proper Number 10, as it were.

I don't think it's the clubs that decide, is it? Is it not usually the police that determine if a game should be all ticket? (If it is the clubs, then I agree - madness).

Aye. I was only following on twitter, but I was happy to see him make what was obviously a change to try and win the game.

Those are 10 a penny. I'd much rather bring in a Gary McAlliser or Bobby Rusell type.

I don't think we have ever adequately replaced Nicky Law. I'd be fine with Thomas trying to take up that role, but pace on the wings is a different kind of creativty than a central midfielder who can put his foot on the ball and make that yard of space for himself and his team mates. As much as I like Skippy I don't put him in the creative class.

We have players who are tough and scrappy, though. It's someone with a bit more nous and a little more creativity we need right now.