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At least we have that chance. A wee bit less stressful than looking over our shoulders at Falkirk.

Sounds like a stonker.

I see Klimpl is benched. McGhee is taking the Fair Play spot seriously!

Is all the banter on the Buddies' boards as sharp and insightful as the patter you bring here? You must be a riot at the school disco.

I know you have been on holiday, mate, but I posted the exact same thing about 6 pages ago. Please ban yourself from posting until you have caught up But aye, it would be great, and makes a further mockery of the split.

That he finds your 'banter' piss poor?

I guess the test will be if we sell more shirts due to the campaign. I suspect the sales will come from the quality of the design rather than the marketing strategy, but I'm just an old cynic.

The man was correct.

If that truly was your best, then you have my sympathies. I had much more respect for the side that won the Cup in '87.

How funny would it be, though, if Aberdeen and Hibs miss out after making the top 6 and we sneak in after losing out on the split? (Quite funny - that's how funny it would be).

I'm guessing you are too young to remember actually seeing Ferguson's St. Mirren side play. Still the dirtiest, most niggling, time wasting team I have had the misfortune to witness in 40 years.

What your missing is Return on Investment i.e. how much does the marketing campaign cost vs. the profit received from the extra sales. I have no idea what the figures would look like, but I imagine (or maybe hope) that the marketing crew investigate these things.

Roger Hynd. Even as a 12 year-old, I could see he was complete mince as a manager.

They wouldn't even be interesting in Compost Corner.

I think the reasons for not liking him are well documented in this thread. He took a team that was capable of finishing second, threw a huge (for Motherwell) wadge of cash at it, and transformed it into a team that barely avoided relegation. And make no mistake, when he joined Birmingham his first task was to avoid relegation. Like I said, he seems to be decent coach, but lacks the ability to build a team. Something that will likely cost Birmingham dear as they try to consolidate in the EPL.

Well he did fail in stopping their relegation too. From what I have seen, he seems to be a decent coach, likes his teams to play football, and is okay at dealing with the media side of things. What he has proved at all of his clubs, however, is that he is pretty useless at spending money to build his own team. He took wee Tommy's team to 2nd in the SPL (with decent coaching) and then destroyed us when brought in his own personnel. He ran down the Hibs squad in a similar fashion. It's also the reason he did a decent shift as the Scotland manager, as it was all about making good use of the resources available rather than having spend money to buy players.

I'm no happy clappy if you have read the bulk of my posts. When McGhee joined I was highly critical of his touting himself for other jobs, for example. More recently, I have critcised his preparation and tactical formations for the 'must win' games. I'm also in the minority when it comes the the Nancy escapades because I thought we were rank in both legs. However, I have been following this shower for long enough to know that a 3rd and a 7th in consecutive seasons aren't the disaster that a number of posters like to believe. I understand the disappointment at finishing 7th, and it's compounded by the frustration of being capable of finishing higher if the split wasn't in place. What I don't understand, however, is the recent trend of a number of fans with nothing but negatives about *everything* that happens on and off the field. They hate the manager, they hate the chairman, they hate half the team. They have, quite honestly, lost touch with the realities of running a small club like ours. There isn't much to choose between the teams around us in the league. We thrived last year because we had almost no injury and suspension problems and, let's be honest, found extra reserves of energy due to the passing of Uncle Phil. This season, we lost McCormack and Porter, had no Uncle Phil, and suffered a slew of injuries mid-season. There is no amount of management talent that can reproduce better results with less resources. I don't care if you are McGhee or Sir Alex. However, it seems that a number of fans (that post on here, at least) have this sense of entitlement that we should be finishing third or higher every season, as if our rivals (with bigger budgets) haven't made any efforts to improve their squads. What is even more ironic is that the same people who complained about the negativity of Malpas in his press interviews are now complaining about the positive spin McGhee puts on his. It's basic management to deal with your team problems in private, and praise your players in public. If he came out and moaned all the time, no doubt there would be similar complaints. Just because I can see we are better off now than we were 2 years ago, doesn't mean I'm a happy clappy. I'm quite capable of seeing areas where we could improve (just see any of my comments about Bob Malcolm before he even signed for us, or the tactical formations for St, Mirren in the Cup). However, I'm capable of seeing the good along with the bad and don't feel the need to constantly focus on the negative. I'll repeat what I said earlier - there are some posters who have such pathological dislike of some Motherwell employees they are losing touch with the reality of supporting a middling SPL team. It's a game, people. If we won every game we were supposed to win, and lost every game we were supposed to lose, there would be no point in watching.

I must have missed the "I'd love us to finish seventh" post. All I have read is your constant whining about everything McGhee does or says. Nothing positive, ever. Fair enough, you obviously hate the guy, but I don't need to read it in every post you make in every thread. It sounds like you have a pathological hatred of the guy coupled with some sort of 'entitlement' mentality I'd normally associate with the Old Firm. The youngsters haven't played in the first team this season because the manager doesn't think they are good enough yet. If we are serious about securing seventh, then I don't think it's too much to ask the top wage earners to win us a couple of games. That way, they can feck off to Benidorm and the youngsters can go out and play with everything secured. In out precarious financial position, a slip down to 8th could end up costing us the salary of a new player.

I think Quinn did a fair job of that himself. A number of clubs would have shown him the door after his antics.

For the benefit of the club's finances, McGhee's (and the players') first responsibility is to secure 7th place. After that, you can mess around with team. Still, at least it gives you another chance to complain, so it's not all bad, eh? You must be missing Malpas.

I thought nobody cared about these meaningless games?

That's a rubbish thing to say. You're not even a real supporter.

Well you thought wrong. We are a group of individuals who support the same team. If somebody is annoyed by some fans' behaviour, that doesn't mean they have stopped supporting the team.

Why pointless? There were cup competitions long before Euro places were at stake, and it still the only chance of silverware most teams have a sniff at winning. I don't remember turning up at Hampden for the CIS Cup Final thinking "well this is pointless".

I was thinking more along the lines of "When Animals Attack".