Clackscat

Just looked again at the WS result e mail, 993 votes cast 36% turnout. That equates to 2758 members entitled to vote, so even allowing for junior steel members that is still below 3800 or so members. Am wondering therefore if there was a minimum contribution requirement to vote as queried by folks either on here or P&B, which would disenfranchise new monthly contribution members?, (hope not), or is there any other reason for the apparent numbers anomaly?

I have been an off and on contributor via standing order since inception and encouraged by the way the board elections were handled contacted WS with a view to restarting my contributions. It was discovered I was entered twice on the membership list, probably because of stopping and restarting my SO before. They were able to tell me I'd contributed £700 (surprised) over these years, I think the admin issue is historical and nowt to do with how the society is run now, but it does beg questions over how diligently things have been recorded against a background of pushing for numbers. In a way talking up the number of members has bit them on the backside as the poll percentage looks worse than perhaps it is, with Junior Steel Members and one off ex players etc. The figure of 1600? currently active contributing members is a closer indication of those 'engaged'. I think the lack of engagement by WS members points to a combination of lapsed members through apathy and an inaccurate membership roll, all of which should be alarming for WS. The new initiatives and the work of the new Board members shows just what is possible and gives us a glimpse of how much better it could work, but sadly I think for a lot of folks it has come too late in the day, given there is potential for an alternative, hence the poll result. That said I am sure like me, the majority of those who said they would 'consider' other offers would only vote for them if fully convinced of the merits of any proposal, and would be hoping the Well Society come up with a viable alternative, so there is no way I see this week's vote as necesarily the end of fan ownership at Motherwell. I hope it galvanises the WS with renewed purpose.

Yes he will

Was a really well constructed and balanced communication. Basically asking for views as to whether losing the majority shareholding is a red line you would not cross, or whether you would consider a proposal leading to that on its merits. If negotiations commence and a final offer is put forward then members get to vote on that. I understand totally the emotions involved but I think it wrong to dismiss something out of hand without knowing what it involves

Going by his demeanour last night I don't think he would extend, he looked and sounded scunnered with everything to do with running a football club, (referees, financial constraints, VAR, SFA, FIFA, development fees), there was also a wee throwaway comment at the end alluding to unfair criticism. Having said that, bridging that gap until there is clarity around prospective investment would imo be a godsend right now so I hope I'm wrong

StAndrew7 Fantastic, comprehensive, and accurate update, you must have shorthand writing skills!

I think folks should draw the conclusion by the word 'sinister' and the fact no one that knows or thinks they know is prepared to put on record in a forum exactly what it is, that it is a non football related matter that left the club with no choice.

Thought he was impressive at AGM tonight, personable and came across as open and honest, even if he uses 3 words when 1 will do!! , and I can see why players and staff are behind him

Announced 2 serious and credible potential investors, both would require a dilution of Well Society shareholding, Well Society Board to put to members whether this would be a red line, before we go any further. Basic summary of what became a 90 minute to and fro.

Be interested in your thoughts and I hope its along the lines of 'that Clackscat fella is talking nonsense, Davor was outstanding today' cause no matter my opinion of any player I want them to be terrific for us, enjoy the game!

All about opinions, but I have to disagree, I think Paton brings far more to the team than Davor, although they do play completely different roles. TBH I don't get the love in with Davor, sure he is enthusiastic, runs about a lot, gives multiple high 5s to team mates and is tidy enough on the ball, however imo not physically strong enough, and not on the ball enough to influence a game. If all our midfield players are fit Davor is the one I would have on the bench, Halliday and Miller play that role much more effectively.

There was a few times on Fri I thought he took the safe option, but tbf did well for the goal, and I thought he looked comfortable on the ball in both cameos, I guess time will tell. Buyaba is highly rated at Sheff Utd (according to someone I know at SU), explosive pace and he did have our first attempt at goal on Fri!

I agree a lot of our recruitment has been questionable to say the least, but I'm wondering how much of that is down to Daws? We aren't party to targets he has identified but have not wanted to come to us for financial reasons. Perhaps 4 targetted players for a position have knocked us back and we are recruiting 'way down his list', at 5th choice or worse, so maybe not surprising a lot haven't worked out? As I say merely wondering if thats the case?

I saw that Chapman turned up at Gilingham for 16 games but is now at Boston United, National League north for whom he has played only 4 games. I know this only because for some obscure reason their fanfare signing announcement appearedon my facebook feed.

Oxborough not featuring since his league cup debut, got me thinking about another keeper who had to wait for his chance. If I remember correctly the chat was that big Sieb Dykstra had not impressed the coaching staff at training or in reserve games, but he went on to be a great keeper for us. He made 1 start in Aug 91 when Billy Thomson was no 1, never played again that season, his next game was in a 3-3 draw with St Johnstone in Sept 92, and apart from 1 game was an ever present that season and the next. The thing is with GKs you never know until they play in the heat of battle Its a tough call for Kettlewell, but if he does go for Ox lets hope history repeats itself 🤞

Your post summed up how I've been feeling for a few years and interesting how it has generated similar responses. Been following since early 70s when living in EK, been in Clacks for 35 years now, thats been a lot of 80 mile round trips (although at least I'm closer to Dundee, Perth, Aberdeen 🤣). We had 2 season tickets in the family, both lapsed, and increasingly its only to meet up with great folks I've met over the years that keeps me going, but not as frequently as before. I don't blame any one thing for this; it's many things from overall state of Scottish Football, my utter contempt for the Old Firm, the constant stream of loan players and a lack of quality and entertainment, while understanding our finances, the bile that occasionally surfaces when things go wrong. I've had some great times and experienced great moments in my time following, but they are fading into the past and frankly I don't see any of that returning Will still attend fairly regularly but it's now down the order of priorities and I'm past getting angsty about it. Indeed maybe it is just an age thing.

Spot on. Seeing the highlights that first one was an outstanding save by the gk who technically did everything right, stayed big, and brilliant reactions to save with outstretched left foot. The very best strikers miss chances, more worried if he wasn't in these positions, the Killie one was the most important and he scored! For sure he'll miss more in the future as will any striker, but playing as he has last 3 games he'll do for me

Fact is no one we sign now is going to impress on paper. Remember Moult signing, seen as 2nd choice to Wes Fletcher, I have to plead guilty to not being impressed at first, look how that turned out Heres hoping

That was a point I made at the weekend, our midfield with extra bodies picked up so many loose balls and played much closer to each other, and carved out some decent chances (need to do some shooting practice though!) I'm fine with 1 upfront, but we can't rely on just having 1 striker available. Obika even if fit could never show the mobility and energy needed which Bair did well. We can't rely on Theo with no back up

Was at Alloa v Edinb City last week, occasionally go to their games over the years, was very poor, if we don't comfortably win this words will fail me.

Now that sums up the issue with aspects of our recruitment, if he didn't fit our style why did we buy him? Agree with you, that is what he is.

Couldn't agree more. I felt Gent also could have stopped Yohan at the start of his mazy run for first goal and saw Kelly having a pop at him. He definitely needs to improve defensively but thats a trade off against what he brings offensively and the improvements in our results since he's been starting games. I remember Hammel's debut at Pittodrie when he was culpable for opening goal, it happens, its how you recover and learn. Hopefully the young man does just that, but really surprised and disappointed at SK publically singling him out especially when more experienced defenders making mistakes aren't

Lucky you, tried to get a ticket now, says sold out. Created Hibs account etc, notice they are not selling tickets to home fans behind that goal, doubt we have sold out the whole end🤣 Scottish fitba eh! making it difficult to spend money and get to a game! UPDATE: Now got one, tried the link earlier today, still saying sold out, just tried again now and tickets now available

Trouble is once you have a succesful set up (as in fairness we had), the opposition look for ways to nullify so you need a Plan B, and SK hasn't been able to find one

Being old enough to remember Roger Hynd starting his tenure with 5 straight wins before it all went pear shaped, and of course SH picking up early wins, I well understand why we should be wary of appointing someone just on 2 results. But we need to look beyond that. How did he get the results from a demoralised bunch, and new players?, How did he approach the games tactically?, how was his ingame management?, how is his man management?, how well does he communicate? How much of a 'leader' is he?, how well does he know our opposition? Winning 2 games is no guarantee of future success, but he ticks all the boxes on the above questions. I would not hold Ross Co sacking against him, if he demonstrates what he learned from it and is ready to go again. Resiliance is a great thing to have, and tbf the other 'candidates' have more than one sacking, and right now are more of a risk. And if not him then who???