texanwellfan

Although had he hammered it and the goalie saved it we would have said he should have chipped it. I think he made the right choice, as someone says, just not so good execution.

How much work goes into educating/coaching the refs? Are they full time pro's or this is extra pocket money? You would think that the SPFL and the ref governing body would be working with the ref's week in week out to review their perfromances and learn form heir mistakes. From what I have seen on TV and on here it seems like the ref's are a bunch of part timers with no one mentoring them or helping them improve. It's also time to remove the cloak of secrecy/silence and establish a platform for communication so that the clubs and paying fans can get at least some idea why certain decisions have been made. The referees should be held accountable for their performances which does not seem to be the case at the moment. Everyone makes mistakes and no problem with a ref saying I got that one wrong, of course if they are saying that too often, then that would be a problem. Somehow i think thats what the refs are afraid of, all too often it would be ooops " got that one wrong". Surely, if the penalty called was reviewed with a mentor the questions would be, was it deliberate hand ball? Was his hand in an unatural poition? From the highlights i believe the answer to both is no. Having said that my gripe is not so much at this one incident as it is with the poor poor standard of refereeing. hrrruumph!!!!

Just to add to add to the ineptness of the ref. Since he gave the penalty he should have booked McManus for deliberate handball

I think he positioned there to destract the linesman so Rooney can run behind the defenders

So are we hiding our heads in the sand by enjoying the 2 great threads on best game and best performance or just scared to think about the upcoming match? It's Thursday already and yet the match day topic is way down the board. I'll go for 2 - 1 to the 'Well based on nothing other than optimism and the hope that McGhee as sorted out a few things during the week. COYW

At least McGhee is trying to be positive He commented on why he played laing in midfield "he can head it, he can pass it, he can run - he has all the makings of a decent midfield player" Definately more positive than saying "I have a bunch of guys here who Can't head it, pass it or run"

Yep. To be honest pretty much what I expectedbut with a better score than I was anticipating....as you say, "we move on" Let's hope Aberdeen continue their slump, having lost their last 4 games, scoring 2 and conceding 11

Toss up who was worse, us or the ref ?

Looks like a reasonable result but more due to Celtic not taking chances and ref not awarding 2 stick on penalties rather than good defending by us.

On the brighter side surely we can't get any worse or am I speaking to soon?

Definately, we need to change it up a bit but the players need to do the basic stuff like passing a ball 5 yards. Ohh And Kennedy needs to get longer studs in.

I like it here but really really really, yes really, miss going to the games.

Has to be 91 cup final for me. Moved here in '89 but had to go back for that one. Close second to that would be Spurs at fir Park in the Texaco cup. 3-2 down form the first leg and they scored first then what a great comeback to win 3-1 on the night.

The "vision" or whatever you want to call it of the owner is not a new one. It's been said for along time that we are a selling club. It's clear that bringing success does not translate into larger crowds or at least not large enough to make any difference. So i believe that the club cannot exist relying on money coming in from the fan base, be that Well society or gate money/TV money etc. The Well society can help out form time to time ( I think this was it's intention, right? ) but as for the fans becoming the owners it is still imperitive to be a selling club in order to bring in funds to sustain the life of the club. Perhaps what Les is doing is merely just a re focus on getting back to being a selling club. It maybe that in the last few years we have been focused on "success" forgetting somewhat that we need to actually produce/nurture talent good enough to sell. These are not mutually exclusive and I hope that we can achieve success and at the same time produce enough talent to sell on a regular basis to keep the bank balance healthy. Regarding the whole "davidgate" discussion, again, this has been going on for at least the past 50 years. On a regular basis individuals finally just give up the ghost and decide enough is enough and they just stop going to the games, whether thats Ian StJohn getting sold ( see! told you at least 50 years ) or Mark McGhee returning as manager. So everyone is entitled to make that choice without getting flak. However, I do think that wishing to see the demise of your football club is deserving of flak. .......Anyways, if the game is on the telly this week I'll be getting up at 5.45am to watch it live. COYW!!!

I know who Alf Tupper is but I don't know who Gordon crawford is

I really have no clue who will be the new manager and really, no clue as to who I would like to see as the new manager but I do hope we have one in place for the first game after the international break.

I'd go for that or pretty close to it and play 4-4-2 Perhaps it's not so much the individual players but the system/or tactics employed by the manager. You either have to play the system that best suits your players or buy the ones that fit into your sytem of play. I think Baraclough done neither of these. COYW 3 - 1 the good guys

I can only go by what I am reading on here, oh and of course results, but for me it seems like it is time for him to go. It appears he has no plan A never mind a plan B. many things on here are hotly debated but I would say everyone seems to be in agreement regarding a few items 1. Taylor, not contributing and invisible for the most part. 2. Howfin the ball up the park whether warranted or not. 3. Playing with Isolated striker 4. No pressing game as expected based on managers previous comments When there is agreement on here on anything then I am pretty convinced its true. By this time ( It wasn't till other day I realised how long he has been here now ) he should have the team playing such that the fans at least can see some sort of effort or plan or light at the end pof the tunnel but sadly this does not seem to be the case. I am confident that we could find a manager to improve performances and results using the same group of players. I just hope we get one here soon!!!

For all those on here who moan about the standard of players we sign............... reference our national team performance this evening and that may help to explain, somewhat, the level of players we get to sign for us. i.e. If the best we have are shite then WTF chance do we have of signing good players?

So makes you wonder then, why is he here and how did we manage to get him?

I was at that game

I thought pre season Watt looked very good. Hope the manager gives him a chance on saturday. Sounds like Marvin needs a wee spell on the bench too and give Thomas a start.

Lionel got to play U20 when he was suspended so I would assume they are separate

Yes, but not the how much..............."reported to be" ...is still ambiguous

We will romp this one...Sutton to score a hat trick..................Ohhhhh wait a minute