StAndrew7

I don't think anyone disagrees that we need investment in the Club to help us maintain financial stability. However, I think the rest of what you're saying is catastrophising/taking the worst possible scenario. What kind of "give" are you looking for, exactly? The WS' proposal includes an entire section on strategic investments in the Club and bringing in external investors. Why do you think it's set us back light years? I would argue that this has made it quite clear to investors what the fans are wanting; people to come in and provide a reasonable input for a reasonable return and that we won't be taken for a ride. Every other Club is free to operate how they choose to; I think our model is the best for Motherwell. How many of those clubs are in potentially chronic/crippling amounts of debt to those investors? Sooner or later they're going to want their money back and that'll potentially spell catastrophe for them, just like it did when Boyle realised he'd fucked it.

Aye, I think he clearly had his issues whilst with us but whenever he did play it wasn't good. I remember him getting absolutely roasted by Tavernier at FP but I'd argue that was the role he was being asked to play; Alexander was happy for crosses to come in and he never closed him down once.

I did at the time he was appointed and similarly to @weeyin, it was ... fine and he made sense as an appointment. Perhaps not for the best part of 10 years, though. I think there will absolutely be people who are just as qualified (perhaps more so) within our support/sphere of influence to provide the expertise required as a chairperson of the Club. Personally, I would advocate for that person to be an independent appointment moving forward; so someone without direct links/ties to the Well Society and the Club side of things; to me it's important that if they have the casting vote, they're able to do so with complete neutrality based on what's presented to them. I'll flip the question to you, as well; did you take the time to check out Erik Barmack's business CV, rather than his content creation/creative one? Because it's severely lacking any kind of business acumen, aside from starting Wild Sheep Productions and having an MBA from 20+ year ago.

Quick summary from me. Starting XI: Ox didn't do much wrong and made a good save onto the post and took some crosses well. SODs was alright but was barely given the ball in behind when he made runs to try and give us some width. Casey was laborious in possession and when he did have it, his passing was pretty haphazard, or sideways. I lost count of how many times SODs made a run to give Casey the option to chip/dink it in behind and he didn't take it once. Blaney was fine up until the goal; he absolutely shouldn't be getting turned in that position. He was better than Casey on the ball and looked more composed with it at his feet, to me. Gordon impressed me; his communication was excellent and definitely feels like what was missing last season. I expect him to start in the middle of the three with Balmer and McGinn and Blaney as first back-up. Wilson hasn't convinced me that he's got the pace or desire to get beyond a man in the last two games, which worries me given we're so reliant on our wing backs to provide the width and pace in our team. He's the definition of a full back playing as a wing back. Davor did his job; it's not eye catching, but it's effective. Miller did well but his frustration at the lack of anything happening in front of him became clear; he had a go from 25 yards when he could've slid SODs in to get in behind in the second half. Paton continues to baffle me; I've no idea how Kettlewell thinks he's a 10. He's at best a 6 or an 8 but even then he's not got all the attributes you need to play either role. He seems to always get on the ball but also simultaneously be hiding from it. When he does get it, everything slows down, to the point where the opposition can regroup and defend as a unit again. This happened loads last season, too. Halliday was busy and did OK at times but he's absolutely not a 10. He does look to be fitter and slightly quicker than last season but he's more of a sitting midfielder these days, I would say. Robinson did well with very little service and put himself about; looks like he's got a good bit of pace as well and he drove forward with the ball when he could. Similar to Miller in that you could see his frustration building with lack of support/options around him. He played some good balls over the back only for Paton (that man again) to have checked his run or not made what was a fairly obvious 1-2 type move happen. Subs: In general, they were all made too late to make any kind of impact, but: Moses is the definition of chaos and I'm here for it. He did have some nice touches and took the ball into feet a few times, which was encouraging. Ferrie didn't do anything to impress me; he was far too eager to go down for the penalty when he could've easily gotten a shot away. He definitely needs time away on loan where he can "learn" what he needs to be doing in those situations. Stuparevic had some nice touches and looked to drive forwards with the ball at their back line which we'd missed all night; 2 minutes of action though? Really? Assuming it was for penalties more than anything. Big man loves oversize shorts, too.

Miller for me with pass marks to Davor, Robinson (who did what he could with absolutely no effective service) and Gordon.

Well, aye, of course? We rarely pay significant fees. Anything we do pay will likely be paying up a player's contract and not much more. That won't take up "much" of Bair's fee.

I can't see us signing a winger, Kettlewell has never played them with us and won't start now. Definitely a number 10/support striker type required and preferably another left wing back.

One thing I will say about the Main Stand is that it has the best view in the stadium; my first season ticket was in the family section there, immediately next to the old away area separated by the ricketiest wooden barrier ever. I can still remember beating Rangers 2-1 (Willie Falconer scoring the winner) and some absolute reprobate reaching over the top of me (I was 9 or 10 I think) to grab my uncle by the neck after he'd had the audacity to tell him to calm down and stop screaming because he was next to the family section!

I don't think anyone is expecting them to be doing the latter, stop being so fucking condescending. The Society absolutely has to start acting on its own proposal; they're already doing that based on their statement here as they're talking with Caldwell about next steps etc. We also all need to step up, too, as fans. The Society recognises the Club needs backing and that we need to do better raising funds to support it, so if we can, we should be upping our restarting our contributions just like @wellfan. It's not time for any of us to sit still and say "they'll deal with it, it'll be fine." Nope. It's time for us to be the ones making the difference, however we can.

Fairly sure he'll be battering into ICT next.

His form really dropped off a cliff; he'd scored 13 by December and only managed five since then, three of them in January; seems like he was released rather than him choosing to leave. Not sure he's the type of striker we need? I'd expect him to get a decent deal in and around League One.

Potentially if it impacts on travel up to Montrose; game wise it's an artificial pitch and the weather warning is due to stop around kick off.

Aye, last time we came close was Rangers in 2018: https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/motherwell/attendances/2018-2019

Nah, it's one of the new training tops. Saw them in the club shop on Saturday.

How do you feel about app development?

Nae idea but I've got mine 😅

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Thought long and hard about that one, didn't you?

Looks like a right back. Excellent!

Looks like Seddon and Sparrow to the injury list, based on the Club's update posted earlier today. Hopefully just knocks/precautionary at an early part of the season.

Aye, I'm all for some protruding yellow steel work, too.

Fair point, well made!

I think something akin to Almondvale would suit us fine in terms of capacity, but preferably with "something" about it, if that makes sense? Like maybe a slightly higher stand on either or side. Something like Nancy's with half the capacity would be nice (I like the slightly larger stands on either side of the pitch for example): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stade_Marcel_Picot

I've been told by a few people that we get absolutely £0 for Theo being away on international duty, although yet to see an official source confirm it either way. Perhaps CONCACAF or whatever aren't as loaded as UEFA?

I'm not sure we'd even need 10,000 tbh; we barely reach that figure nowadays when the OF are in town. Probably 8,500 would be enough, unless we want to attract some international level stuff; not sure what the cut-off for that is?