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I agree with that, I posted the figures in one of the European threads, but sure it's £1.3 million for beating levante, before a balls kicked or ticket sold for group stages. There are then bonuses for every point, 3 big home gates and possible tv income.

Think it's free on their season ticket? http://www.algovaalreves.com/

There's a variety of factors at work here. The old firms domination of Scottish football is a double hit for Motherwell, it makes Motherwell less attractive to potential fans, and given our proximity to Glasgow, it's perfectly acceptable for a kid from Lanarkshire to support rangers or Celtic. The whole religious element probably plays a part too, as kids are brainwashed into following one or other by family or peers. The cost of football in Scotland has continued rising, but at the same time the standard is dropping, every other year a pound goes on a ticket or £10-20 on a season, while the playing budget is decreased and the facilities continue to deteriorate. Lowering prices might not help, it's probably too late, as folk have found other things to do on a Saturday afternoon, probably cheaper and more enjoyable. I've always said, although the reduced prices John Boyle tried didn't really work, I always felt the scatter gun approach was part of the problem, with prices changing week in, week out. If Motherwell set a consistent well publicised low price, it might attract folk along, possibly not even Motherwell fans, but away fans, who could bring more money to the club than currently if we targeted them, it's a market some clubs (including ours) are only now starting to realise is important. Another factor is a big change in lifestyles in the last 20+ years. For starters, far more folk than ever DON'T work Monday-Friday 9-5 or anything of the sort, there's nothing that can be done about that, but Im sure there's plenty folk who can't go to games due to working shifts that cover weekends and evenings. There's also been a change in home life. In the olden days men (who are still the majority in football crowds) used to wear the trousers and do whatever they liked, they could work all week, then go out with the boys all day on Saturday for the football etc. I'd say there's been a shift to a bit more equality in that that will no longer cut it with modern woman. They've often worked hard all week to, and expect you to spend some time with them and/or your kids at the weekend, which takes us back to price, product and surroundings, good luck convincing my wife that paying £20+ to spend her day off freezing and miserable watching often dreadful football played by mediocre players at rugby park or in the east stand is a good day out.

Any word on KO time yet for away leg?

So that's how much I owe you? Anybody who is staying until Sunday, Villarreal are at home on Saturday, although they were relegated, so play in the segunda division.

There is ( or was ) a flight prestwick-alicante on Thursday morning.

We're probably Jew an Israeli team.

I'd guess one of the boozers might run a bus if it was France?

Thursday 23rd and 30th.

See there is a story on uefa about money. "Each club figuring in the first and/or second and/or third qualifying round of the UEFA Europa League will get €100,000 per round even if they qualify for the UEFA Europa League group stage. In addition, every side eliminated in the UEFA Europa League play-offs will be allocated €100,000." Or hopefully "Each of the 48 clubs that feature in the group stage can expect to receive a group stage fee of €1.3m. There will also be performance bonuses of €200,000 for every win and €100,000 for every draw in the group stage. Moreover, qualification bonuses will be allotted to the teams that progress to the round of 32: the 12 group winners can anticipate earning €400,000 apiece and the runners-up €200,000" Presumably as well as "Likewise, every team performing in the second qualifying round of the UEFA Champions League will earn €140,000 provided they do not qualify for the UEFA Champions League group stage, while each side eliminated in the third qualifying round of the UEFA Champions League will get €140,000."

Famagusta would appear a team we could realistically beat.

The stream I watched was good enough to follow the game, but not good enough to tell who was who between some players. Whoever was left of the 3 at the back was good (cummins or ramsden).

Humphrey, oh chris Humphrey drink down the pub with me.....

Yes, read that too.

How do they sort the teams into the smaller groups?

Mr Rae sounds like mystery.

I want that or a really big team that play in or near a city you can get to on a budget airline (or 3hr drive).

According to Wikipedia, confirmed seeds are... Sporting Lisbon Cska Moscow PSV Eindhoven Bordeaux Stuttgart Metalist Kharkiv Az alkmaar Happoel tel aviv Lazio Then winners of previous rounds, losers from champions league, plus teams whose seeding is TBC when all entrants are known. Including: Newcastle utd Levante Trabsonzspor Dnipro Inter PAOK Fc twente Inter Milan Bilbao Rosenborg Steau Bucharest Bursaspor Marseille Poznan Feyenoord Brugges

That's what I thought, lasley was excellent.

With the exception of Moscow, they are all pretty accessible. Is that maybe just a hand picked selection of teams we could get? I thought there were loads more than that?

I think the display and the paper throwing should be separated here. The display looked great! I'm pleased it worked out well, and well done to the guys who paid for and organised it. The paper throwing was idiotic, although its only bits of paper, throwing it at people is asking for trouble, it also seems to have harmed the reputation of the guys that organised the display, which is a shame, as other than supply the paper, they have done nothing wrong.

Ojamma just seems to have to look at his feet and the ball when he's running with it, and for that reason, rarely spots a pass, and sometimes doesn't realise he's in a good position, and turns into bother.

I'd thought boumsong put it in at the time, and had a chuckle at the irony of a guy who probably had an EBT putting us out the champions league, given why we qualified.

There was police on horses at the corner outside the cooper telling east stand folk to join the big queue, it wasn't until we were almost at the front we were told to use both sides. There was no queue at the other side, and the majority of folk were going through the 1st couple of turnstyles. Had it been made known you could queue from both sides, a lot of people would have got in a lot quicker.

Does that apply to the qualifying rounds?