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For me, this is worse than Albion Rovers. For as embarrassing as that was, anything can happen over 90 minutes. To have blown BOTH legs...

Looks like a shocking attempt at a save for their third.

I'm usually one decrying the trolling doom merchants but this REALLY isn't the time to be coming out with "I remember worse times" posts. There is NO consolation from this.

Seriously? One game. ONE GAME!

Exactly my point! A measured response is what's needed. Was it measured from those who felt after just five games that a guy who couldn't get a game for Dundee was the answer? No. Is it measured from those who feel after one pre-season game and one European game who are now demanding a new keeper to play instead? No. Where are we disagreeing there?

Dan is pish after two games. The same Dan who was the saviour based on five games. Knee-jerk reactions and hyperbole. Welcome to Steelmen Online...

It's a good job we live in a society where you are allowed a second chance for making mistakes, don't you think?

I honestly don't mean this as a cheap insult, but based on your behaviour/posts over the years on here, I never believe that ANYTHING you post on here is simply up for discussion. Unless you count the 'bites' you get as a discussion. To answer your question, at no point did I ever say admission prices shouldn't be up for discussion. Some people have quite rightly discussed the validity of the price. What becomes tiresome is: 1) People using it as another stick to beat the club with/moan for the sake of moaning. Yes, there's things that are worthy of complaint but if people moan about EVERYTHING, how on earth are they ever going to be taken seriously? 2) People feeling the need to justify to everyone else why they will or won't buy a ticket. I don't give a shit if poster A, B and C is going. I don't give a shit is poster X, Y and Z isn't going. I don't suppose many other people care either. It's tiresome reading multiple pages of that and it dilutes the valid points people are trying to make about the validity of this particular admission price. 3) It inevitably brings out the "it's a disgrace we don't have enough fans going to games" posts which bring out the inevitable defensive responses which we are all surely to fuck fed up of reading by now? There is never anything constructive that comes from those posts (if there was, I wouldn't mind them in the slightest) and it just ends up in a tit-for-tat whining session. You know fine that everything to do with Motherwell FC should be up for discussion on this particular board. It's just that some folk on here have a very different definition of 'discussion' than many others do.

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As for the game itself, I can't see this being anywhere near as easy as some are predicting. Irrespective of the standard of their league, they are in full flight. We, on the other hand, are still in pre-season preparations. I agree with what someone said earlier: hopefully the Albion Rovers debacle will prevent this squad from ever being THAT complacent ever again. Clean sheets are not something that we enjoyed too often last season. We cannot afford to lose any costly away goals in the first leg.

Fuck sake! Every single person has to justify to themselves (and perhaps their family) if they are willing to spend £25 to go to this game. That's it. Every single person will have their own reasons, motivations, budgets, incomes, holidays, etc. No one will have the exact same circumstances as anyone else. There is ZERO point in trying to say why anyone else SHOULD be going to this game. There is ZERO point in trying to say why anyone else SHOULD NOT be going to this game. The price is what it is. If you can justify the £25, brilliant. Go and and enjoy the game and cheer the 'Well on as loudly as you can and make sure that you do all you can to ensure the occasion is worth every single penny. Hopefully, the players will respond and do the business to make it an even more memorable night for you. If you can't justify the £25, that's fine. For whatever reason, you can't justify but it doesn't make you any less of a fan. You certainly don't have to justify it to anyone else. Stay at home, do whatever else you are needed to do but keep in touch with the game via radio, twitter, this site if possible and hope that we win so that there will be another game in the next round. Then, you can decide whether or not you can justify the ticket price for that, depending on the opponent, price, dates, circumstances, etc. Stop moaning about anyone else's decision, whether that's someone on here right through to the board at the club, and make your own decision as to what you want to do because that's the only decision you have the right to make.

Didn't MuffDiver mean a link for McCall's interview saying he's too similar to the strikers we've got?

I could be talking shite but didn't I read somewhere that Gauld was trained by an independent coach rather than coming through the different youth ranks of an SPFL club? Maybe not, but it would certainly make sense.

...until you slap a great big Cash Converters logo on to it...

Aye, but what if the reason we've lost so many active members is because of certain people who deliberately provoke for a reaction? I'm sick fed up with this idea that if you don't enjoy reading comments like "McCall's a cunt" or "that abortion of a keeper" then you're a happy clapper who isn't interested in reasoned debate or discussion. No one wants to just read pages and pages of blind optimism and praise if it isn't appropriate. The vast majority of us on here have complained about something to do with the manager, the playing staff, the board, the Well Society, etc. That's fine. I want to know what the problems are and I want to know what my fellow 'Well fans think. However, there are two or three people on here who post vile, unnecessary comments or simply stir things looking for a reaction. If that doesn't bother anyone else, fair enough. On the other hand, if that is part of the reason for people becoming disenchanted and leaving the forums, surely it at least needs to be asked if it makes sense for such a tiny minority to have such an impact on the forums?

...or because he doesn't put in a player of the season performance like his brother...

Really? After everything that has been achieved today and this season, THAT is what you want to talk about? There are no words. There really aren't.

Are my eyes failing me or does the outline of the club badge look a bit dodgy? It's more noticeable on the pictures from the club shop page.

Amen.

We're a bunch of shitebags. We always blow a lead. We won't even get a shot on goal. We'll get a hammering. Gunnar's a bombscare. McCall's a cunt. Take that and all the other trolling comments and shove them right up your arses! Fucking love Motherwell!!!

Fixed that for you.

Just to balance things up, I'm a Motherwell fan from Aberdeen.

Straight talking required, eh? Your post suggesting that a good bollocking will make someone better at their job is beyond moronic. Criticising our goalkeeping coach while not even getting his name right is just plain embarrassing. Pull the finger out of your arse and use it start typing more sensible posts. I now look forward to a sudden improvement in your contribution to further threads as clearly that's all it takes. I'm off to shout at some homeless drug addicts in the street to wisen the fuck up and start paying their taxes before some real damage is done...

So, just to be clear, after less than fifteen games each to judge their abilities, Hollis and Neilsen can get to fuck but we should give Twardzik the rest of the season to prove himself (but only if he can grow an extra ten inches)?

Games come around far too quickly now. Bragging rights count for little if the result can be reversed a month or two later. Living in Aberdeen, I'd value a game against them much more if I knew I'd have either half a season of grief from their fans or joyous gloating on my part. Don't get me wrong, our win at Pittodrie made me very happy but if they then beat us just weeks later...