joewarkfanclub

The premise of your post is that every time we have a big crowd we are shite and lose. Its a trope on here that fly's in the face of actual facts. We played well last week at a difficult away venue and didnt lose. We did the same today and are in the next round of the cup. So maybe we need to put this nonsense to bed.

There were 950 at Paisley last week and we didnt lose. Whats the cut off point for ticket sales that guarantees defeat?

I tend to use it. Its handy and you get straight out onto the motorway after the game.....

Tommy McLean is the best in my lifetime, no doubt. Brought us up, built a great team, won us the Cup and came as close as any modern day Motherwell manager is ever likely to come to winning the league (despite finishing 3rd). Without Tommy, no way McLeish gets us to second place. Favourable mentions to Craig Brown, who despite his Judas behaviour at the end, was a very good manager at the right time, and really should have had us through to the group stages in Europe. McCall got us best of the rest 3 times and Champions League Football, but he did have a favourable budget and as others have said, was pretty shit in the cups. No one has mentioned Robbo? 2 Cup Finals in one season is pretty special and if he hadnt come up against one of the best Celtic sides in a long time (twice) he might have an even greater legacy. Worst? Has to be Malpas. The results were honking. The football was honking. Some the players he signed were honking, and he was boring as hell!

Too far away to think about. Lets get the League Cup out of the way first. Hopefully the Miller deal will be concluded and we will have a few more bodies in the door.

I think the way we are playing certainly minimises opportunities for other teams to score against us as they have to work really hard to get the ball from us and keep it long enough to do something with it. Yesterday was impressive the way we hunted down in packs and won the ball back quickly when we lost it. I do worry about our ability to score enough goals though and we do still look vulnerable from set pieces. Hopefully Stama is fit enough to start and Said doesnst suffer any negative reaction to yesterday. I think he and Maswanhise either side of Stama could create chances. Im gonna go 2-1 Motherwell.

Thought Koutroumbis was having ga very good game until he got injured. Said and Longelo are gonna be fun to watch all season. Whole midfield was great and could have given it to Fadinger, but I went for Watt. He has surprised me by how composed he is on the ball. Always available and just moves it on effortlessly. Very tidy player and very important to the way we are trying to play.

I did give him a "notable mention" 😆 Great player. 🧡❤️🧡

Very decent performance today. We kept the ball ever so well and won it back quickly when we did lose it. Led to a mostly comfortable afternoon. One loose pass back, a few dangerous corners ( one forced a great save from Ward) and a couple of shots from distance was about it for St Mirren. That said, for all our possession and nice football, our final ball was lacking and we didnt create as many clear cut chances as we should have. Didnt give St Mirren much opportunity to bully us physically, although there were still a few "timely" tackles, but the referee dealt with them adequately for the most part. We clearly still need dre-inforcements. Hopefully the next couple of weeks will see Miller move on and our squad finalised.

Totally agree. My point was that he is the best left back in my lifetime and the greatest overall player, so he deserves to be played in his correct position. Let others fight for the scraps! 😉

Just came on as a second half sub.

McCart was a very good centre half. Just not as good as Krivokapic or Martin. Id bite your hand off to have him in this current Motherwell team the way the manager wants to play. He was very good with the ball at his feet.

Keith Macrae was just before my time but my old man raived about him. Didnt he break his arm when he went to Man City?

Oooft! Very close. I think we must be a similar age! I forgot about McLaughlin. Probably the best player in our 1st Division title win. Great player!

Totally. But by the same token he isnt even in our top 3 left backs. So not for me.

On the left though.....😉

Looks like he was bored shitless by the repetitive nature and quality of the questions from journalists! We will be up against it physically against St Mirren, particularly at set pieces. I do wonder if he is likely to bring Ox back in and go with Balmer if Gordon doesnt make it.

Looking at Tams team, its clearly all guys he saw play, which is fair enough, as its always difficult to compare players of different generations. But given that Im the same age as him, I reckon either of my teams would scud his! Sieb Nijholt Krivokapic Martin Wark McFadden Lambert Russell Cooper Graham Pettigrew Randolph Corrigan McCart Craigan McKinnon McCormack POD McAllister Murphy Arnott Coyne Notable mentions to Ally Maxwell, George Burley, Shaun Hutchison, Stevie Hammell, Vic Davidson, David Turnbull, Peter Marinello, Higdon, Sutton, Moult & KVV.

I get the financial arguments, but Id just like our league to have a higher profile. 2 good results last night and United in particular were pretty impressive. Hopefully we can take advantage of a fixture pile up and get a tilt at a league phase next season!

I guess its personal choice and all a bit of fun, but Joe Wark at right back. Seriously? Bad enough the great man never won a Scotland cap, but not making a Motherwell fans greatest ever 11 in his natural position is beyond the pale!

Or maybe the manager is just easing an important player back into the fold by giving him some game time without risking him unecessarily. He had a serious injury last season and a second one in pre season. If he didnt rate him he wouldnt be sending Connolly out on loan.

Hard to say whats happened with Campbell & Turnbull, although both have had injuries, so maybe that has taken its toll. But lets not suggest they werent very good players when they left us. Campbell got supporters POTY in his first season at Luton and Turnbull was scoring goals for fun at Celtic. Might just be a series of bad decisions that has left them being miles off the level required. Would love to be able to give them the chance to rekindle their careers at Fir Park where they would get some love and patience. However, I dont see either of them being what we are looking for right now in terms of improving our problem positions.

Didnt Ox play 30 minutes against Hertha? Or did I just imagine that?

October 1989 and Yinited are wearing the strip they would wear in the Cup Final against us nearly 2 years later! That and the majority of players son show were also still involved! Changed days!

Lennon Miller in the pics the club relelased of todays training, so I guess he isnt on a plane to Italy just yet.....