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Folk really need to stop saying the Well Society is not fit for purpose. The Well Society previously was not fit for purpose because it was set up that way by the incumbents on the club board to get the benefit of of the money raised but without the interference that would come with true fan ownership. The fact that Society Members have had the temerity to vote individuals onto the Society Board who might actually want to change that and have a real say in the running of our club appears to have brought a lot of this to a head. Its clear from detail given that McMahon has been pushing this deal and that Barmack doesnt want to be inconvenienced by a rejuvenated Well Society trying to influence any decision making. He appears to have been assisted by Dickie and Feely in this regard which is a clear conflict of interest. How else can you explain a proposed deal with 1 side putting in £1.95m over 6 years and gaining 49% of the club whilst the other side puts in £1.75 over the same time period to lose 25% of its existing stake? Barmack also gets effective control of the club from day 1 for only £300k and an 8% stake due to his chairmanship and board appointees? The deal is ludicrous and should be chased. The new Well Society Board have only been in place since October. In that time they have done their due diligance on this and are putting together their own proposals to strengthen the club going forward. They are all all Motherwell fans with the best interests of the club at heart. They have a diversity of skill and experience. They deserve a chance to show they can can do better than the ones who got us to this point.

You are 100% entitled to your opinion on Craig Gordon. But to call Clarke hopeless when he has got us to 2 back to back Euros and a World Cup play off in 3 attempts is way off the mark.

Pleased for Kelly. But Craig Gordon must really be done. Be nice to get the payment though. Every little helps! 😆😆😆

I concur! 😍😍😍

I agree. But Id also say £1m is quite a lot for a player we got for nothing and everyone on here had written off when he arrived. Re Texans post, pretty sure St Pauli will try and low ball us. But if Blackburn and Sunderland are interested we can certainly risk going high and see where we end up. The benefit of having a full time CEO who knows what he is doing should ensure we extract the maximum fee, should we wish to sell.

Lets not get carried away. Theo Bair is not a special player. He has confounded everyone except SK by turning out to be a decent player at our level. Ive no doubt he could continue to develop under SK and become even better. And if he was willing to sign a longer contract to do that and protect our investment, then Id be happy enough with that. But realistically, any offer in the region of £1m with potential add ons, we are doing a deal. Our business model demands it. It would also allow us to sign better defenders, which we really need to do. SK then needs to pull another rabbit out of the hat!

Loved watching Russell and Cooper. They had the same telepathy Graham and Pettigrew had. Made it all look so easy.

All pre season friendlies should be played behind closed doors. It would save us from ourselves.

Some nice away days to places we havent been before or for a long time. Airdrie at home would be nice!

Sale of the Century! Pretty apt we played in Matchwinner kit at that time! Id forgotten he had been in the squad for the Norway game. I had it in my head that he got recalled for the provisional squad that went to Genoa for a PR trip and then got injured before the finals. I do remember Jock Brown asking him in a post match interview about Scotland and him saying his Scotland days were over. Glad he was wrong. Even if he didnt get to the World Cup.

Hopefully not Joe Lewis then!

If SK didnt have faith in Ox as a back up keeper last season, he shouldnt be offering him a new contract this season, and certainly not as a number one. More likely he didnt want to drop his captain in the run up to the Euros and deny him any chance of making the Scotland squad (as unlikely as it is now.) One things for sure, Ox wont get any better without playing games. 25 isnt terribly old for a keeper, but he really needs to nail down a first team place soon whatever level that may be at. If Ox as no.1 is the plan he is gonna have to hit the ground running this season as I dont think he will be afforded much sympathy from sections of our support.

Dont want to start a tit for tat, but you gave multiple reasons at the time why Kelly wouldnt and shouldnt be dropped for Oxborough last season. Are you admitting now he should have been given a chance?

I could be wrong. But I dont think any prospective investment money will be going straight into the transfer budget. My understanding is that we need the extra investment to underwrite our financial security going forward. That might leave a little wriggle room in terms of players but I dont think we are suddenly going to start signing players previously out of our price range. We still need to spend wisely and get maximum "bang for our buck"

If the rumours about Joe Lewis are true, then it may well be that Oxborough is no.1 with Lewis in a back up role?

Not defending the original post at all. I dont think for a minute that SK is an idiot. However, your post seemed to suggest that he could be absolved from any blame in re-signing players because others would have input. If we are offering Mugabi a new contract its because SK has said to the CEO he would like to keep him. What that offer is, is obviously a different matter. But we all know the defence needs a re-fit and you cant do that by keeping the majority of players that performed so poorly in it.

Not sure what your point is here. Surely nobody has been offered a new contract if SK doesnt rate them and wants to move them on? We are talking here about players that have been offered new contracts. Id agree with you that the CEO may not sifn off on a player if SK wanted them but their terms were unreasonable.....

I find the whole Kelly debate quite boring. Theres too many posters with entrenched positions digging in for the long haul rather than engaging with any meaningful debate. Kelly was a good keeper once. He hasnt been for some time. He doesnt come of his line which leaves us vulnerable at set pieces and his distribution is awful. He is far from the worst keeper we've ever had, but also far from the best. Looks like he is signing for Rangers and we can get his rather substantial wages off the wage bill. Might free up some money for better defenders to better protect the next incumbent.

Didnt hear Ketts reference it after Hibs and no mention on the matchday squad, although SOD and Casey dropping to the bench were both highlighted.

Agreed. Be nice just to get an announcement and move on. Feels like the whole season has been a holding pattern......

Hopefully Halliday will be a gentleman and agree he is finished at this level. I noticed he didnt make the matchday squad yesterday although there was no mention of him being injured.

I suppose that depends on the detail of the deal on offer and whether there was any room for negotiation on the part of the investor. If its a black and white take it or leave it offer that clearly isnt in the interests of the club, not sure what the point of putting it to a vote would be? Just say we think its a shit offer because of x,y and z and move on. Democracy is definitely important but Id say transparency is the key.

No smiley emoji? That hurts! 😍

Not gonna lie. I had to look "irascible" up. Surely irascible happy clapper is an oxymoron?

As Ye Bezzer says, its entirely possible to be not satisfied with the season on a number of fronts whilst at the same time not being overly critical due to circumstances. Absolutely want us to do better than we have done this season. But there has been a lot going on and we have had to clear the decks a little in order to get back on an even keel after a couple of seasons of really bad decision making and wasteful spending. Next season we need to spend smarter address the areas of weakness in the team and hipe the manager has learned from this season and can implement that learning into improved performances. Tactics and in game management needs to improve. Seriously challenging for top 6 and a decent cup run in at least one of the cups would signify improvement for me.