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Didnt see tge game yesterday, so no idea hoe he played, but given the votes, did Spitz forget he has signed a PCA? 😍😍😍

No idea whats going on! Probably dodgy wifi! 😆😆😆

I concur. There were some touting him as the kind of manager we should be looking at when we were on our bad run. He is up there with Tommy Wright in terms of what we should be looking for imho. The game has moved on.

I concur. There were some touting him as the kind of manager we should be looking at when we were on our bad run. He is up there with Tommy Wright in terms of what we should be looking for imho. The game has moved on.

The 10th spot thing is often mis-represented. Its for budgetary purposes only to ensure we dont run into huge debts. That doesnt mean the playing targets wont be higher. Incremental improvements are the stable way to success. The speculate to accumulate route is frought with danger for a club like ours.

If we can we add better in game management and stop the mad substitutions on top of that we can defo make top 6.

Not sure there is much different there to what I was getting at. Kellys performances this season certainly havent been anywhere near as good as they were in his first season, so I agree, over the piece he has been average. Strangely though, as others have said, having Hollis in goals didnt stop us getting top 6. But he had much better defenders in front of him. Regardless. We need better value for money when it comes to recruitment. Given Kelly is on above average money for us Im comfortable with him moving on.

I dont think Kellys performances are necessarily the biggest problem, albeit his weaknesses are mostly agreed. I think generally speaking most folk accept he is pretty much the average standard of keeper we can attract at our level. Sometines we do better, sometimes we do worse. I think the fact that he is widely regarded as our top earner is what hurts him. A lot of us think we can do better for the money we are paying. Or at least not do worse by offering a keeper less.

Quite like that. Like the hoop socks as well. Sorry Grizzly! 🧡❤️🧡

Paddy Power were brilliant in that regard. Wasnt that fussed on the home one, but the petrol blue "Sampdoria" number is a classic!

I dont think we should be selling him to Bournemouth for that very reason. And certainly not at a cut price. I have it in my head that he is worth at least what we got for Turnbull. He has 2 years left on his deal. Best to keep him developing in our first team and sell him when the right bid comes in. As it will.

That may well be. But he has a season option so Id like to wait and see. Hearts certainly didnt think he was up to it with them anymore, but I guess it depends what we see his role as. Obika was always a risk with his injury record. Im hoping some of last seasons signings were down to budget and circumstances. We could do without making some of those mistakes again.

Im gonna try and play the ball here and not the man. Your original point may have some validity. Ive never seen Dylan Easton play, so Ive no idea if he will or wont be able to do a job for us next season. However, as you rightly say, no one saw Bair being a success and he has been by quite a margin. However, its your second paragraph that I have to disagree with and it diminishes any value anyone could place on your first point. Davor may be a limited player but he is a grafter and his defensive qualities bring value to the team. As does Paton who is a tidy footballer and we missed him badly when he was injured even if it was just for the purposes of giving others a rest. These are the kinds of players we need in our squad as they let others like Spittal and Miller play their football. I had hoped Halliday would be the same. A good squad player. And admittedly he hasnt really shown anything so far to justify his billing. However, he has been injured and didnt have a proper pre season behind him so hoping he will be better next year. Point is, none if them are poor or hopeless. So maybe the manager knows more about the quality required in the division than you give him credit for?

I agree that factors other than actual performance can come into things when voting for player of the year, but there is no suggestion Spittal has been a bad egg in the dressing room. In fact, as well as being comfortably our best performer over the piece, he has shown leadership qualities when he was quite frankly dragging us through some games, and seems well liked and respected by the other players and management. I dont get any feeling that he wasnt liked by the fans either up to the point the PCA was disclosed and some threw the toys out the pram. Happy to accept that Slatterys goal (best team move) or Bairs dink (outrageuous and unexpected piece of skill) are worthy contenders fo best goal, but POTY should have been a shoe in (imho). Anyway, Feed the Bair. He still has plenty of room to develop as a player, but his goals and performances have been as welcome as they were unexpected!

Spittal not getting any of the fan awards reflects poorly on our support who are clearly more pissed off about him signing a pre contract with Hearts than thankful for the 2 years sterling service he has given us. He has been our player of the season by a distance and capped off by some incredible goals. His free kick against Alloa didnt even make the shortlist. Good to see he got the Players Player of the year and the Coaches. Speaks volumes.

We have only won 9 games this season. But we have drawn 13 and lost 9 by only 1 goal. That tells me we have been competive in the majority of our games this season. That being the case if we had prevented just a handful of the really poor goals we have lost this season we would be much further up the league. Fine margins. Given that SK hasnt been able to coach these mistakes out of the team, I think its inevitible our defence will be overhauled close season. We need different personnel and/or a different system if we want to improve next season. Whether that possible or not on our budget remains to be seen.

Happy to be the Ying to your Yang! (Of course I would say that! 😉)

I like a bit of critical analysis. Win, lose or draw, there are always things we have done well, and things we could have done better with. Highlighting both sides of a performance should be welcomed.

I think we all need to take a deep breath. It doesnt matter how many games someone does or doesnt go to or how many years they have supported the team. What matters is our support of Motherwell FC. If you give an opinion, be prepared to debate it and back it up. Because sure as shit someone will disagree. Try not to make it personal, or take it personal (hard sometimes I know) we are after all, all on the same side. Some folk are always negative, some folk are always positive. Thats life. Meantime, Feed The Bair.........

I read that as well, and its a fair enough point. Does it extend to message boards? I will certainly try my best to consider that before responding to posts in the future.

I think they know the rules. Its how they are choosing, or being told to interpret them I have an issue with. For me Shinnies hand does come out away from his body and the handball stops us gaining an advantage. However, I dont think he did it deliberately and it was in my opinion entirely natural as he was running. Similar to Bairs at the other end. They either both are, or in a sane world where VAR doesnt exist, neither are. Still doesnt excuse the Ross County decision though. Plenty talk down south from pundits there about binning VAR. Never happening, but clearly not just a problem in our league.

I know what you mean, but we have had a few this season we have let ride. Good to see that our pen claim in the last Aberdeen game was unheld. Not that it helps us much. Personally dont think it was a pen, but they have been given all season.

I get what folk are saying about the appeal being a waste of money as we were never going to win it. However, sometimes you just have to make a stand in order to highlight an injustice and support your player. If we just roll over and let these things pass, then we will continue to be ignored and mistreated

Can I get a second chance? I promise to behave! 😍

Our record against Aberdeen at Pittodrie is at least as good as our record against them at Fir Park is bad. No idea if we win this one. But I dont think we lose it. 3-3 again!