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The other side are just as bad these days. They used to just be insufferable self entitled bigots. Now its the "you lot relegated us, we dont forget" nonsense. They are the Donald Trump of football clubs......

Be interesting to see how the fixtures pan out. Not sure how the computer system works, whether its just a random selection based on certain criteria fed into the system, or whether the league deliberately try to keep the interest going right to the end of the season? Anyone at home in the first game will do. I agree avoiding United right now would be preferable as they seem to have hit a rich veign of form. That said, I think we would have learned from last time out and with a weeks rest before the game, our energy levels should be back up to where they need to be. Lets try get that final win in the bag at the first attempt.

I was at work. There was a lot to catch up on.....

Your always very balanced KMc and I dont disagree with any of what you have said at all. I think thats where the nuance of the situation comes in that I referred to earlier. If you look at KVVs goal yesterday check the distance between him and any Motherwell player when the pass is played, and I guess that was the same for much of the game given the opposition. Yet he chases the ball into a channel gets control of it and turns his man inside out to score. That just wasnt happening in the middle part of the season. Now, that might just be down to good man management, and I take what you say about KVV carrying an injury, but, it was interesting to hear Kettlewell talk about egos and not showing poor body language in moments of disappointment. Could it be he has identified the problem and dealt with it in a positive way? I accept now with hindsight that all of that has to be on Hammell, because whatever Kettlewell is doing now, Hammell couldnt/wouldnt. Regardless. Im delighted to see the big man back to his unplayable shithousing best and look forward to him smashing the 30 goal mark for the first time in my lifetime before sailing off into the sunset on a 7 figure fee! The difficulty will of course be replacing him.......

Positivity wins! Kettleball is here to stay!

KVV. The mans on fire........

Didnt see the game today, but caught the highlights. Looked like a really solid defensive performance which was good to see after last weeks small blip. Absolutely cracking run and finish from KVV for his goal and unlucky too with the other chance he created for himself. Ketlewell has clearly turned this squad around. Hopefully we can get the early win from the last 5 games that we need to settle MJC's nerves and allow the club to start planning for next season.

Inability to see nuance is your downfall....

There were several games when he didnt do any running at all. No one denies his value to the team. No one says he should have been dropped. Everyone realises his goals have kept us up. But the difference in body language, effort and general application now compared to January is night and day. It doesnt make you a hater to offer constructive criticism when you can see a senior player could be doing more. Personally Im delighted that he has rediscovered his mojo. I desperately hope he smashes the 30 goal mark and gets POTY. I just find it amusing how anyone offering constructive criticism of a good player gets it tighter on here than the boo boys who just slaughter players indiscriminately..........

Spittal is a bit like Goss, in that he is a decent footballer, but not so great on the defensive side and prone to switching off and dropping his man. He has been much better under Kettlewell than he was under Hammell or Alexander, probably because Kettlewell has set the team up to get the best out of the players he has at his disposal and cover up for the deficiencies. With Tierney and Danzaki, the only obvious replacemements, both still coming back from injuries, there is no way Spittal will or should be dropped for this game. We need some sort of creativity in the team and if we dont go 2 up top today, as is likely, then he is the player most likely to get up in support of KVV. He is far from perfect, but a far better player than some of our support give him credit for.

To hate Celtic more than Rangers is quite a position to take. I used to dislike them both equally. But 2012 changed that dramatically for.me. Their utter inability to accept that their owner had been financially doping them for years and blaming everyone else and their granny for "punishing them" was sickening to endure. . The blue cheek are way out on their own for me now. Beating them in the play off finals was one of my favourite experiences as a well fan, closely followed by spanking them in the 2017 League Cup semi final.

Wont be going. Not spending £30 to sit in a corner behind a pillar. Id shake hands on 1-0 Celtic right now and move on.

Sure thats not The Rangers you are talking about? 😆

I dont disagree with that. But nullify means to cancel out or stop any opportunities we could create. Im not entirely certain that Kettlewell wasnt quite happy to allow them to have a lot of tge ball on Saturday and try and hit them on the break, confident in the knowledge that they are a bit powderpuff up front and unlikely to harm us if we defended in numbers. I thought that it looked a decent plan for the most part as the game should have been out of sight by half time. We were still definitely short of the standards we have maintained of late and could/should have made better use of the ball at times, but we werent miles off it. An extra 5-10% and we win that game. Anyway, all semantics. We didnt win the game and need to use it as a reminder that we are not good enough to drop our standards even 5% because this is what happens.....

No outstanding candidates. Was between KVV and Max for me. Went for Max purely because Ive given it to KVV the last few weeks!

Are their any of our managers that you have liked? Ever? McKinstry hasnt been getting played as he doesnt fit into the system that got us 5 wins and a draw from 7 games. He got on yesterday because we were losing and the manager had to try something different. He hasnt been frozen out (unless you are ITK) the manager just had to pick a formation to save our asses.

Re the game, I thought we were unfortunate to lose. United started well as you would expect for a team fighting for their lives, but they didnt really create anything of note. After KVV scored we looked the better team and the game should have been put to bed before they got the equaliser in the 2nd half. Poor goal to conceed as we just didnt track the runner. Looked to me like Casey just switched off for a second which is a shame as he has been generally excellent. Re the pen, its soft and and Fletcher is looking for it, but you see them given, so cant really argue. The one surprise is that the second one is very similar and Walsh books Fletcher for diving. Probably shouldnt have lost that game, but we did and it was our own fault. Fine margins. On another day we take our chances at 1-0 and run out 3-0 winners and wonder what all the fuss was about.

Surely if they knew how to nullify us, we wouldnt have created several chances? As has been the case in many of our games this season, we beat ourselves.

All part of the programming! I felt like that last week and we won 3-0 at a canter. It will take a long time to bury the ghosts of '78! 😆😆😆

Mathematically it is still possible to be relegated. But given the advantage we now have and the fact that the bottom 6 all have to play each other in the final 5 games, it would take a freak set of results now. We are 9 points clear of Ross County in 11th which is effectively 10 points due to our goal difference so they would realistically need to win 3 and draw 1 of their remaining 7 games without us taking a single point until the end of the season. Given they have only won 7/31 games all season, I think thats highly unlikely. Dundee United would need to beat us on Saturday and then win 3 of their last 6 without us winning any of our games. They have won 6/31 all season. I think 1 win from our last 7 sees us 100 percent safe. But lets look up and see how high we can get. Every place in the league is more money for next season and the earlier we can set our budget. As a child of the 70's / 80's Im not as wedded to the single claret band as other generations as it wasnt really a thing in that stage of my development. I still do prefer the traditional kits, but I think a change every now and again is a good thing. The fluorescent kit isnt a Motherwell kit at all for me, although I do support the cause and the thought process behind it. We could have gone for black with claret and amber trim to make it different, but I guess there were market research groups saying otherwise.

I like this seasons kit. Im just delighted we wont be relegated in it. I can now banish some childhood memories!

We owe them for the theft of a point last time they came to ours. And KVV will have a score to settle having missed the penalty. Add in Ya Bezzers stats and we should have too much for them. 2-0 Motherwell and another KVV brace!

Even Wullie P didnt reach the same levels at United and Hearts as he did with us. Although he got closer than most. John Sutton is another one......

How about just debating civilly instead of trying to noise everyone up all the time? Its tedious. Its also funny how you and Yodo dont seem to post at the same time. Or maybe Im reading too much into that......

You can be digruntled all you want. You can still channel you energies 2 ways, but keep ignoring that to prove your point if you like. You are probably right. Many of us probably did hang on to Hammell too long because of his playing career. But thats called loyalty and the kind of thing you earn from playing over 500 games and displaying impeccable attitude throughout. Anyway, its time to move on. Hammell is gone, Van Veen is playing well again and the team are winning. Id prefer to focus on that instead of getting involved in petty point scoring debates. KVV has a real shot at 30 goals with 7 games left. Think I will channel my energies into helping him achieve that!