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Fair doos. Post retracted. I blame the manopause.....

Post retracted.....

Thats all well and good. But without the agent the players wouldnt know what else was out there and would be more likely to play things safe with what they know. Im not criticising agents, its their job. Just stating the reality of the modern game.

Aye. But are ye losing control?

The boy has only just come back from a loan spell and has had a few good games. I dont doubt that he looks a talent and we need to look after our assets, but its not as simple as that once agents get involved. Remember the clamour to get Jake Hastie signed up and the bile that went in his direction and that of the club for allowing him to go to Rangers. Remind me.how that worked out?

Football has changed utterly since then. Every club will have a similar stat re managers. Bosman, player power and the amount of money in the game plays a large part in manager turnover.

Alas I fear this is true. If what was between his ears was the same.level as whats in his feet he would be a world beater. But it isnt, and he is not........

People just see a big guy and automatically assume he will be good in the air and put himself about. He didnt win a header all night and you wouldnt have got a newspaper under his feet during most of his challenges. That doesnt overly bother me as he was good with the ball into his chest and feet and was able to lay it off to others. Probably more a case of us learning what he is good at, rather than demanding he do stuff he is not.

No failures tonight. Thought Casey was immense at the back, Johnston played well and scored a great goal. Spittal and Goss were much improved. But Ive given it to KVV. Ive criticised him heavily recently due to his poor attitude, work rate and general sulkiness, but he showed none of that tonight. He worked hard for the team, linked play up well, made good decisions and scored a very good goal. I dont know if Kettlewell has had a word in his ear, but more of that every week and we might just turn this around.

Massive 3 points tonight. The performance wasnt perfect, but it gives us something solid to build on. There looked like solid structure and shape and everyone seemed to know their job. The workrate was much improved even from KVV, who I have been critical of in recent weeks. Tonight showed what he is capable of when his head is in the right place. Didnt think there were any failures tonight, everyone put in a shift. Yes mistakes were made (particularly at their goal) and most of our players have their weaknesses but everyone contributed something. Its feels good to get a win. Its been a while........

I agree with this. The Society should run its own affairs seperate from the club. The alignment and overlap should come through input into the decision making via the board and lending of finances where required. At the moment it feels more like the club owns and runs the Well Society than the other way around and they pay it lip service in doing so. For it to thrive it really needs someone to drive it forward and give it a far higher profile than it currently has.

Where is this Lambert rumour coming from? I know he was linked in the summer, but I assumed that was just agent/paper talk to get his name back in the public domain again. Id be very surprised if we could afford him and that he would be interested at dropping down to our level. Unless of course he just isnt getting a sniff at bigger jobs and is desperate to get back into the game anywhere he can.

Very sad to hear this. He was a very able replacement for Ally Maxwell and if I recall correctly played in goals during our first ever European campaign. Another one gone far too soon........

Well thats the last peice of the jigsaw puzzle in place. You may not rate Hammy. You may think the board are shite. You may think that these players are still shite and we are doomed to relegation anyway. But you can no longer say Hammy didnt know what the problems were or the board havent backed him in addressing them. Now we need to see a reaction. Lets do our bit.

As Ive said before. I dont doubt his ability, and whilst we had no alternative replacement, it would have been madness to take our only goal threat out of the team. Maybe Im being harsh, and maybe he deserves another chance to show what he can do with someone alongside him, but Id be making it very clear what was expected and challenge him to show me the player that we saw in his first game against Hibs. He's by no means the only one who falls into that category, but he is the most visible culprit due to his body language.

No I wouldnt. As a senior professional, I would be leading by example, running my ass off, putting myself about and shouting encouragement at my team mates, telling them exactly what was required. Not throwing my arms in the air and blaming everyone for not being as good as me.

I think I covered that.......

Will support stop him from being a huffy manchild with a bad attitude? PS not doubting his ability before you bring that up again.

Is Blaney confirmed? I had hoped he was one on the physio table that might make it. Our problem is midfield options. We cant drop both Slattery & Goss unless we plan on going with Cornelius or Lennon Miller. Without a proper DMF its hard to see how we become harder to beat without going 5 at the back or 5 in midfield. No Blaney limits our options and probably means McGinn and Lamie in a 4.

If the senior players back the manager, lets see it tomorrow. Regardless the team needs freshened up....... Kelly McGinn Lamie Blaney Johnston Furlong Danzaki Slattery McKinstey Obika Aitchison KVV and Goss need benchtime and we dont have a proper defensive mid to play much else and not expose our defence again.

All the more reason for him to play the new players and get them to dig him out the hole he amd we are in......

I think thats probably why the change came about. Was certainly under Alexander that it changed, and its the kind of thing he would have done to gain that extra 1%.

I agree with most of that. But we need to see improvement from both Hammy and the team. If he gets his new players on the field and they are given time to bed in and there is no improvement, or even worse they do an Aberdeen and down tools and throw him under the bus, then unfortunately the board cant just stand by and watch the inevitible happen without trying everything in their power to avoid relegation. Lets hope that it doesnt come to that though, because I do agree changing manager again is likely to have a poor chance of success.

That is interesting and would explain a lot on the SOD front. Just goes to show how much speculation occurs on message boards without knowing the full facts. Its the kind of thing we would have known 2/3 years ago, but fhe clubs position on these things has clearly changed and that has been covered elsewhere. Given McGinn had been tried there previously and hadnt looked comfortable and our only other option was a new signing who had just walked in the door, the decision to play SOD on Wednesday might have made sense from Hammys perspective, however, I wouldnt expect to see it again on Saturday.

I was just talking about this very point last night at work........ Carson, Tait, Dunne, Gallagher, OHara, Watt, Main would all walk back into our first team right now. And all have that little bit of backbone and nastiness in their game that we sorely lack. I understand all were let go or moved on for the right reasons and with few exceptions we probably couldnt have changed that, but the challenge is to go out and replace them with better or at least as good. Christ, even Donnelly and to a lesser extent Polworth at Kilmarnock wouldnt be too far away from our first team. Its quite clear what part of the club has been failing, although part of that probably rests on the Alexander appointment. Anyway, no use crying over spilled milk. We are where we are and Hammy has the players he has until the summer. Good response from him. He sounds angry at last. Hopefully home truths have been aired and we see some sort of reaction tomorrow.