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Good point,even if we are able to bring in 3 or 4 players that can go straight into the first team that will only get us so far,we need to be getting a lot more out the current squad,the standard of goals we give away is actually laughable,I was hoping hammell would be able to make us a bit more defensively sound but so far there has been no evidence of that happening.our home form is a serious issue now,we keep hearing that we want to make fir park a fortress but if we can't beat ten man kilmarnock when were two up,what chance do we have.

I wanted alexander out the door as soon as possible after the Sligo games but we can't keep blaming him for the here and now,I totally agree the squad is pretty dire but hammell needs to start getting a tune out of what he currently has and so far he hadn't done it,were absolutely brutal at the back,being a defender himself,he should be making us harder to beat for a start but yet were still conceding an average of two goals a game.we took the gamble on signing two crocks that are now no longer with us cause there injured again,that buck stops with hammell,we can't be taking such gambles in January,I would say we need a minimum of four players to come into the starting line up but with hammells comments that doesn't look like remotely happening.

Exactly we blew it big time,it was nothing to do with kilmarnock who were shite,that's twice we have dropped point from a winning position against them this season,it's not good enough.

I love hammell as much as the next fan and would love him to succeed but right now there's a lot of naivity on show,I get he was chucked in at the deep end and he's learning on the job but we're witnesses the same mistakes over and over,were almost certainly going to end up in a relegation scrap and need to eradicate the mistakes before it's to late,that tonight isn't acceptable on any level,to be coasting against a poor side with a man less and only coming away with a point could easily come back to haunt us.i really hope hammell and the recruitment team have been working overtime to improve the team in January,we don't need anymore jersey fillers and players with dodgy track records with injuries

The game should have been over at 2-0 even before the sending off,it's results like this that will see us battling relegation this season.there needs to be serious questions asked why we're so consistently bad playing against 10 men.

Will we ever fucking learn

I hope we're not chasing the game tonight as there's absolutely nothing on the bench if we're looking for a goal.

The forward area definitely needs attention,van veen is our best option but we never quite know what we're going to get from him from week to week,mckinstry has shown some flashes but needs to start finding some consistency,shields for me isnt good enough and efford who I don't rate much either is injured anyway.i don't think we will see moult back so another striker and a right winger would be ideal in january.

The league is that tight that we could quite easily be battling for the top 6 just as easily as we could be battling relegation,one thing for certain though is we need to sort out our dreadful home form and this game would be the perfect time to start.

We were always going to get pumped in this game,getting some minutes into the legs is the most important thing.

I hate you butler

Cheers mate,I thought I recognised the name.

Is that him that scored the free kick against us for sligo

It's not just because he plays for us but not giving kelly atleast 45 minutes in that game was madness,it would have been an ideal time to try him out,a game away from home to a decent side to see how he reacts to international football.gordon is number one and that's fine but are we just going to wait until he retires and then spend however long seeing who is upto the job as his replacement.

I'm sure moult will be working on his fitness over the break and hopefully with some bounce games throwing in,he will be a bit sharper for it,him like the rest of the squad need to hit the ground running after the world cup.we definitely need to be signing another striker,our options up front just won't do for the rest of the season.

After the sligo games and alexander leaving then appointing hammell,I would have been happy enough stopping for the world cup with us in 9th place.i hope we can use the break to our advantage and get players back from injury and allow hammell a bit of a breather to take stock and hopefully plan for upcoming transfer window.theres a wee bit of a gap opening up to the teams above us that we have to put right against st mirren and kilmarnock,we really need to be hitting the ground running when the play resumes.

Fair do's mate,thanks for that.

I think sol has been decent this season,it would be a bit shit if he's been dropped for the handball on sunday,mugabi being brought in who's hardly kicked a ball this season is giving me the fear.

Spot on our game management is woeful,were far to nice on the pitch,it's about time we started pulling out some dirty tricks when it's required.going back to the rangers goal,there was about 6 chances to pull the guy down,take the booking and then prevent the goal,you can be sure st johnstone will play every trick in the book this weekend if they need too.

The league is as tight as ever where a couple of wins could get you right up the table and at the same time go the other way with defeats.im concerned that we have just lost another game by the odd goal,it's now becoming a real problem rather than just a coincidence,we need to be finding a way of coming away from these tight games with atleast a point,at 2-2 on Sunday the minimum we should have been coming away with was a point,throw in the likes st johnstone at home and kilmarnock away and it's a habit we need to stamp out and quick.any team will always struggle if there home from is poor and ours definitely is,I expect nothing from this game but the games coming up against kilmarnock and st mirren are almost at the point of must wins to not only put points on the board but to stop any psychological problems kicking in from playing at fir park.

It would be madness to persist with the same formation and shields for this game.i would go with moult and van veen from the start and cause as much bother as we can,there's no point throwing moult on when the game is out of sight.i would have cornelius in for mckinstry to offer some legs in the middle of the park which will most definately be needed.

Aye a home win would be nice,that livi game feels like a long time ago.i fully expect to get beat off celtic but with st mirren and kilmarnock coming soon,we really need to be bucking our ideas up at home.

Really good post,I wanted alexander gone and there's no doubt hammell was chucked in at the deep end on the eve of the new season but he wanted the job full time and the he's the man the club entrusted with the managers position so anything happening now is totally down to him,we can't keep blaming alexander forever.i said when it went to 2-2 that I hope we don't think it's job done and sit back and that's exactly what we did,either the players,manager or both though that was the right decision and it backfired big time,that game was there for the taking but despite being in the ascendency we were happy to take the point and it bit us on the arse,between that and the pitiful second half performance against ten men last week,it's simply not acceptable.theres problems throughout the team in the current set up,the defence gets no protection from the midfield,who in turn offer very little going forward,we don't have the wide players to compliment a lone striker,we really need to shake things up.i fully expect celtic to beat us yet again but surely hammell wont set us up the same way again,I think we're at the point we need to be going with two up top and going more solid in midfield.

Totally agree with that,we don't have the legs in midfield to get about the pitch,when the opposition is goal side of our midfield there all totally out the game,that 3rd hearts goals sums it up,nobody getting close enough to make a tackle.

Exactly we have no chance if the basics aren't being done,the standard of goals we give away are criminal,fitness levels are questionable as well,too many were blowing out the arse towards the end of that game.