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I don't think Kelly is average. I do agree that his performances have tailed off but as other people have said having a rotten defence hasn't helped him this season. I think he was outstanding in his loan spell. If he hadn't been as good as he was we wouldn't have pushed the boat out to get him back. And I also very much rated Gillespie and Carson. Ruddy too obviously. Gillespie also only got his chance because of Carsons injury. (that's not a criticism of him).

This. And you know looking back at this thread from the beginning. Are there many names that folk were saying that back then that they would rather actually have right now instead of Kettlewell? Loads of names were mentioned am sure including Levein. He's got loads of management experience and look at the position St Johnstone are in right now. Of course he'd made fuck ups along the way but a massive for me was that he didn't lose the dressing room when we were on that poor run.

He has made mistakes with transfers clearly but I think he's also made some decent decisions. Gent. Vale. Nicholson. He's done a really good job with Bair as folk know. I think we were also unlucky as I've said elsewhere. If Mika hadn't had that injury and then been recalled our season might have been v different. I'm not suggesting btw that we should rely on one player but when you have someone as talented as that and they are firstly injured and then recalled it's going to be a sore one. I agree with you - he's kept us up comfortably. Don't see any reason why we would be thinking of parting ways with him at this point.

If that's true I think that's a bit off. Kettlewell is on record as saying there were no discussions with him regarding his future at Motherwell when we were going through that poor run. McMahon was also on record as saying in February that he thought Kettlewell was the person to take the club forward - and our form still wasn't great at that point But Craigan who has no connection to Motherwell apart from being an ex player is told by a board member that they were considering sacking Kettlewell during that time period. And he's repeating this publicly? The pundits think the board deserve enormous credit for not sacking a manager during a poor run? I completely agree with you re the revolving door of managers issue btw. I just think that Kettlewell deserves to have the pressure eased off him a bit - and get a bit of credit as well. I know we didn't get top six and that some of his signings were poor. But we've been up against it as well. The injury list. Mika and Spencer being recalled. And tbh for me. This was honestly the first season in a long time where I actually really did think we might end up in a play off position and I didn't fancy our chances if we had. It's been a huge turnaround even if it might not always feel like that.

I do as well.

Dundee have conceded more goals than we have this season. I do understand the point you are making but it's fine margins as I'm sure folk know. Just too many draws.

That's right

Plenty of people on here talk about departing or ex players.

According to the Scottish Sun Celtic won't be pursuing Kelly and they think it's more likely he'll return to England.

He wouldn't. But he might prefer to get regular first team football rather than be second choice

There was a discussion on pie and bov the other day about Kelly having lost the goodwill of the support and that he would be best leaving - I find that baffling tbh. Not least because thousands of supporters don't post on forums and we all don't think the same way. Same with "everyone thought Bair was rotten".

Halliday Sod Paton Slattery 🤬.. Everyone 🤣🤣🤣

You have a point there to be fair

Hopefully he will now we are safe. I'd make Casey captain.

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Well exactly. It was the sanctimonious pricks comment that kicked all of this off.

You've called the entire midfield poor to hopeless so by that thinking then surely we should be getting rid of them all. Not just Slattery. And it's absolute nonsense that Slattery has only been fit and on form for one month since he joined us.

The guy also tweeted in the same thread should we go in for him? He's making it up as he goes along in my view. He's also valued Miller at 850k taken from transfer talk

Kettlewell said in the press that all 15 out of contract players had been spoken to - this was at the beginning of April.

Agree. Doesn't get enough credit in my view

Halliday was signed after Slattery got injured I believe

I assume he was signed for a reason - given how threadbare our squad was at that point in time.

We've had injury to contend with as well. Slattery. Paton. Miller.

Every name is coming out of the hat on there to be fair right now 😂😂. And they slag steelmenonline off. They know as much as I do and that would be the square root of fuck all

Well hopefully Kettlewell will get the best out of them.