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To be honest with you. I think we could all go on about Stuart Kettlewell overthinking. It will make zero difference to how he picks his team. He saved us when Hammell and the club parted ways and we are still in the Spl. Yes he's made mistakes but so do other managers. I like him. I like his honesty. He's never hidden away from the press. Im not a football manager thank god and it's very easy to criticise when we aren't in that position. And fans obviously do have the right to their point of view because they are the ones who turn up week in and week out.

I am too.

I'd be surprised if that conversation happened tbh.

So that leaves him sitting on the bench for a year?

He's been without a club since he left Aberdeen. Was last training with Man utd to keep his fitness up.

I've got no issues with Andy Halliday being with us next season.

How? Genuine question. Do you mean by asking people to raise subs or asking local businesses to invest? I just think there's too much uncertainty around everything at the moment. Surely if the well society are going to put a proposal together then members and fans should know. All I am seeing at the moment is tweets about how great fan ownership is and not a lot more. All there is is speculation at the moment. It would actually be good to know what the offer from the American investor was/is.

Yeah possibly. Don't see him failing a medical though unless he's picked up a significant injury none of us know about.

I really agree with you here. We can't ask for Motherwell to be top six on a regular basis and have a good cup run with the funds we currently have. If we want to progress we need more investment. I've seen it said online this season that this Motherwell team are the worst they've ever seen. If we want better players then the manager needs more money to spend. I just don't see how we can do that without outside investment

I think that's a different situation tbh. Halliday has been playing for us since January. Foujat wasn't playing for Celtic before he was about to sign. Surely Halliday would have gone through a medical before he signed on for his loan spell?

The Foujat case was different though. He was injured before he played for Celtic and that's why the PCA was ripped up. I don't see us putting Halliday through a medical when he's already played for us. I can't read the article. It's behind a pay wall for me.

Tbh I think that if he's signed on a PCA then Motherwell will need to see it out. I'm not particularly calling for him to go but it's a legally binding agreement and if we broke it we'd be very likely liable to compensate him.

Yeah. I have seen this and Ive said elsewhere on the boards that this was the case, that his deal was going to become permanent - I think what people are wondering is if this is a PCA. It certainly looks like it is but the club haven't worded it in that way which is causing the confusion.

I've no idea but I think it would be unusual if I club said to him prove your worth and you'll get a deal at the end. I did see something that gave a list of players and it said that Halliday had signed a PCA but I can't find it. It's possible someone posted that list on pie and bov and that's where I saw it. I also get that we aren't a charity but if he's signed a PCA then if its cancelled I assume Motherwell will have to pay compensation.

Miller has signed until summer 2026

The Brittain situation was a bit different. He signed a PCA with St Johnstone and wanted to stay at Ross County whereas Halliday may have signed a PCA with Motherwell and some fans don't think he's up to the job and don't want him next season. Not sure we could just rip a PCA up if he's signed one without being liable for compensation. Im sure though that there will be folk on here with more legal knowledge than I have (zero) that will know where Motherwell would stand legally if we didn't want Halliday next season. Pre contracts aren't legally binding in England but they are in Scotland.

Yes. Richard Brittain.

I didn't say in my post that you said that Kettlewell wasn't up to the job because of the lack of cup success. It was a general observation. As I've said more than once. There's nothing more I would like than to see Motherwell get top six or higher every season. I wouldn't have spent decades following the club and buying season tickets and putting into the society if I didn't want to see the club do well. Im just not going to see everything in black and white terms of top six and good cup run is success and everything else is failure.

I think it was.

I didn't take offence. I just think personally over this season I've seen posts on here and on other forums where people post saying most fans think this or that . There's around 30 people who post on here regularly if that. I also think the poor cup run is being used to suggest that Kettlewell isn't up to the job. When was the last time Motherwell had a decent cup run? For clarification. There's nothing I'd like better than to see Motherwell get top six every year. I was delighted when we last got top six. However for me the main objective is to avoid relegation and that isn't because I don't want success for my club - it's because retaining our top flight status is essential. I don't want to see us drop down into a league that we might struggle to get back out of. We've made top six 9 times in the last twenty years so it's obvious there are going to be seasons where we make it. Seasons where we just miss out and seasons like this.

He was injured I believe - there was talk of him being a doubt during the week.

I'd be very surprised if it were a gentlemans agreement. Surely given the fact that other clubs were after him he would want some kind of security. If there was a PCA can Motherwell cancel it? Everything on the Internet re Halliday makes clear that his deal was going to become permanent in the summer.

I'd be very surprised if any of the aforementioned players went possibly apart from Slattery who might want to go elsewhere after he recovers. As for Halliday he's been offered a one year deal so to let him go would presumably cost us money. Moses has played 45 mins of football in total. Think it's too early to make a decision about whether he's a squad player or not. I personally think Slattery is a much better player than some of the players you are suggesting we keep.

When was the last time we had a good cup run? Quarter final in 2022? Semi finals under Robinson?

Ferrie and Ross did get game time. They were subbed on in the 77th minute.